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Please Help !!!!
by GWBrown on 24 March 2012 - 00:33
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 I can't stop my shepherd from chasing our cat, at first I thought it was the chase but it's not. She is trying to bite the cat, I think she'll kill him if she can.
The shepherd is 7 months old and we got her a month ago, the cat is 13 years old and we've had him 13 years. This is my 4th shepherd and I have never had this problem. If I can't stop her, I am afraid she may half to go. Maci is a great dog with this one problem, when she sees the cat she will lock her eyes on him and will not hear or see anything else, I half to cover her eyes to get her attention!!! Can this behavior be stopped????
The young couple we got her from thought it was funny when Maci chased there cat. When we picked Maci up they stated they didn't realize what kind of dog they got, they just wanted a german shepherd......shit puppies grow up!!!                                                                                                               We can close our house into 2 sections using french doors, cat in one end of the house dog in the other, but hate to live that way .

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by yellowrose of Texas on 24 March 2012 - 00:57
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 I warn all my customers about buying a german shepherd with cats in the home or other small dogs..

I have one right now who didn't listen and I told her, the german shepherd will one day get tired of the Schnauzer nipping her and barking and acting like a prey ...and now they have to get rid of the Schnauzer who is  7 yrs old

They compounded it by getting a male pup given to them from Louisiana and that male has made the now 4 yrs old female completely change her attitude about a lot of things.

ALL these kinds of changes in your home with German Shepherds need to be discussed with a reputable Breeder BEFORE  you buy a shepherd..

I hope some one here can help you ..I know how but right now my body won't let me post much more..

Many a breeder here may be able to tell you how to stop your gsd..YES it can be done..BUT you may not want all the work and hours it will take to do it???

YR
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by beetree on 24 March 2012 - 01:05
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Trust your cat. Find the cat a permanent, unassailable dog space. This combination of old cat and young dog does not have a good outcome.
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by Markobytes on 24 March 2012 - 01:20
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This behavior probably can be stoped. Try putting a leash on the dog inside the house, get a bunch of treats ready, slowly reintroduce the cat and treat the dog when the cat is at a distance but before it reacts negatively. Your pup is getting into a teenage phase and you must let it know the cat is part of your pack. Control these meetings so as to give a positive association to the cat. Try this before resorting to harsher measures but remain calm and in charge. Good luck. Almost forgot, this is where you would use the watch me command if you and the dog already know it.
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by yellowrose of Texas on 24 March 2012 - 01:35
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  Another command you need to teach the dog   immediately is the one   LEAVE IT......
  This command is very helpful for this and many more things..along the way..

YR
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by Markobytes on 24 March 2012 - 01:38
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Good point YR
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by Slamdunc on 24 March 2012 - 01:47
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GWBrown,
Separate the two, it is really not fair to the cat that has lived there for 13 years. 

I'm sorry and I don't mean to be harsh but if you "have to cover the dog's eyes to get her attention" you have a serious problem already.  That type of approach and mentality is going to cause you lots of problems training this dog.  You need to take control of this situation and fast.  Covering the eyes of the dog to get it's attention is not doing anything.  Be firm, very firm and strong and make the dog focus on you. 

I agree with putting a leash on the dog and trying treats, I doubt that will be effective.  However, I would put a leash on the dog and correct strongly and end this behavior immediately if the dog goes after the cat or even thinks about going after the cat.  The correction needs to be strong enough that the dog never wants to chase that cat again for the rest of it's life for fear of another correction.  If you do not have the ability, skill or intestinal fortitude to deliver an effective correction you may need to find a new home for this dog.  My intention is not to offend or insult you, but express the reality of the situation. 

I would never leave the dog and cat alone together, the dog will more than likely kill the cat.  It is fairly easy for a dog to kill a cat, especially a cat that is 13 years old. 
 

Jim


 

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by melba on 24 March 2012 - 01:48
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Some dogs, no matter how much training you put into them will NEVER be cat reliable. I have had a few that were not. The 2 dogs
I have in the house right now treat the kitties like puppies and small furry sheep. Syd typically "grips" the cat lightly when kitty is
being naughty, but will otherwise be "mom" toward them. She has been rougher with her own puppies then even the naughtiest cat.
I have 2 right now that I would never trust with cats, ever. They can be around kitties under direct, firm supervision. That's it.

.02

Melissa
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by Siantha on 26 March 2012 - 04:12
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the cat thing if it wasent taught at a young age will be hard to correct my last litter our cats slept with momma dog and the puppies ( momma dog raised the cat aswell when he was a baby) and cat is declawed so my pups where around them since birth and knew not to bother them and that has to be kept up on my dogs will chase the cats but they are all good friends and sleep together. but i would say screw the treats if you are trying to fix the problem and you cannot get her attention i would put a prog on her in the house with a tab u see her go after the cat grab the tab give a hard correction and tell her to leave it. she should after a wile respond to the leave it but babying the situation will only prolong your prodicament 7 months she is more than able to take a prog for this situation i wouldent use one in training but this is different.
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by LadyFrost on 26 March 2012 - 12:55
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get tall cat house to give your cat a place to escape....and work on your dog...I agree that "Leave it" should be a must learn command, practice it with food, cat, toys..etc.

restrict your dogs space in the house...limit her to 1 room...this does not mean u have to close doors..u can teach a dog not to leave a room....this will give your cat space and safe locations...my dogs know any area that has a carpet if off limits they know "off carpet" so that limits them to living room/kitchen...do a search on here you will find many posts on cats and dogs.


also sometimes cats initiate the play, and your puppy being only 7 months can be put into place by a cat... puppies are smart, if they enjoy to play with a cat they will learn quickly how to do it gently otherwise cats leave...

here are a few snap shots...










and this is what happens after play gets too rough...she is left sitting by a door all by herself...
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by Slamdunc on 26 March 2012 - 13:21
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It will only take one "rough" session of play with this dog and the cat is dead.  This dog needs to learn to learn to leave the cat alone and avoiding the cat is the safest thing the dog should learn.  There are some dogs that will just kill a cat if given the chance, it is not playing for them and never will be.  
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by joanro on 26 March 2012 - 13:23
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I say give the thirteen year old cat a safe environment to live out it's senior years. Find the dog another place to live. Your cat has probably been terrorized by this recalcitrant young dog, who sounds like she needs a job. You gave the dog a chance, but not all dogs are compatible with cats. Even a young puppy can be a challenge for an old cat. I feel for you in your predicament.
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by Hundmutter on 27 March 2012 - 19:57
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I don't know if there is anything in my experience of this area that will be helpful, but on the chance that something might be useful - and anyway to show a glimmer of hope generally on this topic - here's what i once did: Had to bring a 3 1/2 yr old bitch to live with a 13 yr old cat. Bitch was not particularly cat-friendly or experienced. Her mother & grandmother were cat chasers.The cat had never lived with a dog before, but was a strong character and had been known to 'face down' dogs outside my flat.  I got a big crate and put the GSD straight in it, so cat was free to walk around and pass her but she could not get at him.  Things that others have said about give the cat lots of high-level bolt holes, work the dog while its out on walks etc to wear it out, concentrate on teaching a solid Leave, all apply, as do first meetings on lead, never leave them together unsupervised.  Within two weeks she had given up trying to get at or chase the cat; within a month they were absolutely civil to each other under all circumstances.  They never became best friends as in curling up to sleep beside each other, but they were always fine in every other way. He died at 17, she clearly missed him. She lived to 14 but I never had the opportunity to get another cat so don't know how that would have gone.  One thing I did which may not go down too well with the "never say No" brigade - the cat was always 2nd in my household, the dog definitely 3rd. Cat always ate after me but before her;  could sit on the furniture, which she was never allowed to do; generally held up to be superior to the dog. I feel this approach helped greatly.
 

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by ggturner on 27 March 2012 - 22:30
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Be patient and continue teaching your dog to leave the cat alone.  Don't leave them alone together.  We have 3 gsds and 2 cats that get along great, but years ago had a siberian husky that could not be trained to leave cats alone (she killed stray cats and one of our cats).  We had to give her away to a home without cats.
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by Sunsilver on 27 March 2012 - 22:39
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A lot depends on the dog. I had a female that helped me raise a litter of kittens. I currently have a male that tried to kill my cat the first time they met. Eventually, they became best friends, and he very clearly missed the cat when it was run over by a car.

However, if your dog has really high prey drive, it may not work out. I have several friends who have to always keep the cats separate, and one friend who thought things were working out, until the cat had to spend a few days at the vet's. When it came home, it smelled strange, and was no longer accepted by the pack. They tore it to pieces while the owner was at work.

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