German Shepherd Dog > What one item do you think is indespensible for a new ownerof a GSD? (51 replies)

by Rik on 21 March 2012 - 03:15
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for the pup get a tug and balls to chase and congratulations on your new pup.

for you, grow your thick skin a little thicker if you really believe the folks here do not recognize a puppy mill when they see it. If "Thinschmidt's " is anything other than that, where are their dogs in trials/shows. I have never of heard of or seen one.

And honestly, I think that this thread was started as a lead in to "Thinschmidt's " (no different to the lead in's for "Panda" "Shiloh" "White") that we see annually here. Just got short cut by leotta, who by the way does have internationally recognized dogs (health certified) (and breeding bitches) in your area.

If I am wrong, then I will of course apologize. Just do not take you or anyone serious with the "2 day no speak" on a 12 week GSD in a new environment." I just cannot imagine anything more traumatic to a puppy.

but again,
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by SharonCA on 21 March 2012 - 06:53
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Rik... ridiculous to accuse me of a "lead in", I didn't mention the breeder's name, one of the members did.  I was just looking for some ideas about what products I should buy for my puppy.  I recently joined this forum as you can see.  I'm a banker living in Orange County, I have nothing to do with the breeder other than I bought a dog and joined their weekly training program, talked to other owners of their dogs who swear by the training and breeding.  geez.  I have better things to do than this back and forth nonsense, and I won't be asking for advice again.  For those of you who gave me input about products to buy, thank you.
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by Ibrahim on 21 March 2012 - 08:03
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Wrong  SharonCA, this place is a good place to learn and share knowledge, this place appreciates members like yourself, it's only that the  wise guys take more time to reach you. Just be patient, play nicely and you will gain our love and respect. 

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by vomtreuenhaus on 21 March 2012 - 12:42
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What does being fed the Large bag of Eukanuba GSD formula prove...? and why does it matter if Keith feeds it? IMO Eukanuba is on the same level as Iams and Science Diet.


Definitely lots of things for chewing and "mental stimulation" The everlasting treat balls are good as they have their super hard disks on either end and you can also fill it with treats. Stock up on bully sticks, even for a 12 week puppy go for the 12inch ones. No tennis balls. Biscuit treats are good, as well as pounds upon pounds of hot dogs for training.

Do you have an outdoor kennel? Where will your dog be during the day? Will he be spending all his time with you or will he have "breaks" where he will be outside on his own to "be a dog"?


 

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by Eldee on 21 March 2012 - 12:59
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In the good old days, before EPI was diagnosed, Maya loved her big red kong toy with the hole in it.  Used to stuff it with hard kibble and put it on the floor.  She played around with that until the kibble was all gone.  Bought me at least 15 minutes of " me time "
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by Emoore on 21 March 2012 - 14:04
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"What does being fed the Large bag of Eukanuba GSD formula prove...? and why does it matter if Keith feeds it? IMO Eukanuba is on the same level as Iams and Science Diet."

No, he's the dog ON the large bag of Eukanuba GSD.  The canine equivalent of getting on the cover of a Wheeties Box.  
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by vomtreuenhaus on 21 March 2012 - 14:46
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My bad, still means nothing and is irrelevant...Had the dog been recognized for protection at a national level event...Then i could see it relevant and meaningful.

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by RLHAR on 21 March 2012 - 15:42
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15' - 30' lead until your are confident in your recall.
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by trac123 on 21 March 2012 - 16:07
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I have been a breeder of GSD for more years than I care to mention!!!!!!!!!!In the eartly days, I visited the Guide Dogs for the Blind (in the U K) to ask how they raised their puppies. They breed them, GSD & Labrador mainly and they follow their upbringing and document it. They state that puppies should go to the puppy-walkers at around 7 weeks of age and that the longer they stay at the centre waiting for puppy walkers, the less chance of success the pups have in becoming Guide Dogs. These pups can learn but usually fail in the ability to take responsibility if they have to wait until aged 10 - 12 weeks before finding a puppy walker.
I realise that the puppy mentioned here is not intended as a Guide Dog but thought this information may be of interest.
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by aceofspades on 21 March 2012 - 17:13
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Big red Kong has always been indispensible around these parts.  Stuffed with peanut butter and kibble they keep a pup occupied for a long time.  I kept a few and would keep the ones not being used, in the freezer. 
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by Donnerstorm on 22 March 2012 - 01:31
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The 2 most important things for a first time gsd owner IMO a good sense of humor, and lots and lots of patience!!! I also have to question the silent treatment, what is that supposed to accomplish?
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by djc on 22 March 2012 - 02:02
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You know, this all sounds very weird and overly obsessive to me. All puppies need to be spoken to, touched and loved!!!! That is the essence of beginning your bond. I also find it terribly overbearing to MAKE a 12 week old puppy do a 30 min. down stay!!!! What a drive killer to say the least!! I'd like to see dogs that they have brought up like this do SchH! EVERYTHING should be fun for a puppy!!!  I just can't wrap my mind around this type of thinking.
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by Eldee on 22 March 2012 - 02:38
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I was beginning to think I was crazy and had never raised my puppies correctly according to this web forum topic.  Just because a dog has a long pedigree and comes from an expensive kennel and a long line of champions from the early 1900's does this mean we raise them differently? Come on now....playing mental mind games with a 3 month old puppy.  Who's crazy here??
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by laura271 on 22 March 2012 - 11:12
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I second RLHAR's suggestion of a long line. I've found a kiddie pool to be a really useful (and fun) item during the heat (can you believe it's in the mid-80's here in March?). I buy two and put one inside the other- this keeps the outside one from springing a leak due to teeth and nails during rough play.

I also find the silent treatment very odd and can't understand what it's supposed to accomplish (other than have the pup constantly whine for two days). I hope the OP reflects a bit more on this.
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by AmbiiGSD on 22 March 2012 - 13:00
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A crate!
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by LadyFrost on 22 March 2012 - 14:15
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a good vacuum cleaner......the one that can suck dirt from flower pots, ripped newspaper, chewed up pieces of carpet..... if you already have that..than you are ready! :)

second best thing that i got was a dog bed...i teach my dogs "bed" in the house and it's a must....crate work for some people, but crate is night time, put away, go to sleep.....bed is a place where he/she can sit, lay while still being part of the family, when strangers come in, dog is ordered to bed and they stay on it, when i want them out of the kitchen its - "bed"; when i want to send it out from under my butt - it's "bed" command and I know exactly where dog is even w/o me following to see...also my dogs eat on their bed..there is nothing worse than a chewed up, saliva covered bones, toys in the middle of the living room, kitchen, bedroom...so gross....my dogs get a toy and they go to bed to enjoy it...bed is a "good" place, it's a dogs place, its a safe place...i would never order them off their bed, it also helped a lot when I moved, dogs were uncomfortable on new slippery floors, new smells, etc...but their beds were theirs, it belonged to them and they adjusted a lot faster.

hmm...a bit rambling....but hope it makes sense...

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by joanro on 22 March 2012 - 20:42
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Djc, your a hundred percent on the over bearing and a drive killer. Sounds like cruel and unusual punishment to me. Nothing makes a pup/dog happier than to hear the sound of his person's voice. Two days without having that might seem like an eternity to a pup, and make them feel abandoned (emotionally). A poop scoop is a must, and a furminator (shedding tool). Please don't make the little guy feel abandoned-- enjoy him and good luck.
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by magdalenasins on 16 April 2012 - 20:43
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This sounds like the leerburg method of pack leader training but I don't think it's meant to be used on puppies that young. The point is to make the dog look to you for all of the good things in life, food, walks, water, etc and is done on older new to thei kennel dogs from what I understood? As for indispensable anything small you can keep on your person to redirect those crocodile teeth onto.
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by Conspicuous on 16 April 2012 - 21:47
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I agree with beetree. I've heard to not greet them the second you walk in the door. Give them a few minutes and then go to them, only if they are calm and patiently waiting for you.

Good luck with your new pup, but I have to agree with the others. I don't think I could ignore a new pup for two minutes, let alone two days! :)

Oh, and I'd say a crate and some chew toys, for sure!
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by SitasMom on 16 April 2012 - 23:07
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a box of dvd's - to educate yourself
the power of training with markers
the power of training with foodt
he power of training with toys
8 weeks to 8 months

crate
food and water (and easily cleanable dishes)
wide flat collar (with of 2 vertibrae) and leash (simple leash not a mechanical one)
chew toys (durable and easily cleanable)
training tug or toy
training treats and a clicker
brush and grooming rake

cleaning supplies for those occaisional messes (eco-88 is amazing)

vet's number on speed dial on your phone and taped to your refrigerator
emergency 24 hour vet - ditto

health records including; worming, vaccinations, and physical exam specifics

breeders info - name, address, phone number, email address
puppy guarantee signed by both you and breeder - read it first

sorry, not "one item" but a list of important stuff.....


i cannot agree with not talking to your puppy for 2 days, that's crazy...




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