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Selling on the database by Von Savitch K9 on 19 March 2012 - 17:48 |
| Has anyone ever sold a GSD through this database? |
Von Savitch K9 by Ibrahim on 19 March 2012 - 18:30 |
| What do you mean by "sold a GSD through this database" ? If what you mean is through a classified (ad) on this site then yes many pups and adults were sold through ads over here. This might be the most visited site by dog lovers and owners. Many breeders are active on the various forums and do benefit from the site as a media for their breeding programs. But I believe that the management of the site does not involve itself in the transaction and does not guarantee the genuinity nor content of what is being advertised on the site. Ibrahim |
by trixx on 19 March 2012 - 18:32 |
| i have not sold any dogs on this site , but have brought a dog from this site and also have been scammed off this site- i say the you be aware that not all people on this site are honest. |
trixx by EuroShepherd on 19 March 2012 - 20:40 |
| I've bought and sold through this site, and so have some of my friends. So far I've been pleased with the transactions. However, I have never bought anything sight unseen. I have shipped a few times (and the buyers were very well informed of the pups they were receiving, with plenty of photos and descriptions of personalities) but most of my puppy buyers come and see their pups and my dogs in person. |
EuroShepherd by remione1 on 19 March 2012 - 21:01 |
| If you sell you must put one of the following in the title: EXTRA, SPECIAL, TOP, EXTREME or SUPER. Make sure you put alot of exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh & don't forget to put a famous dog 3 generations back in the pedigree as a selling point because I'm sure that dog is a clone of it's great-great grandfather. Good luck!!!!!!!!!!! |
remione1 by Klaus M on 19 March 2012 - 22:01 |
| I have stopped advertising because I find people are basically either looking for a dog they can buy cheaply, then build up with exaggerated or fraudulent information and re-sell at a profit. There are some honest people but it is often difficult to weed them out unless you care to engage them and get more info out of them so you can check third party sources. Some make themselves appear to be a well-known kennel by changing the name just a bit and setting up a fairly professional-looking website. If someone rushes you or gets verbally abusive, back out! Unfortunately it has come to dealing with people that I know or getting referrals to others through them. It's not easy but if you are going to spend several thosand dollars on any dog you have to do your homework. People are more than happy to sell you a fleabag that you think is going to be a champ because of what they say or show you. The best thing to do is to go directly to a breeder that shows and competes by checking UScA or GSDCA-WDA events. There are excellent opportunities but you need to look beyond this database to find them. |
by Zep on 19 March 2012 - 22:02 |
| remione1, I'm sure that was meant to be funny..but..isn't that what breeding is all about? Zep-- |
by GSD Admin on 19 March 2012 - 22:29 |
| Sure would love to hear suggestions on how the FREE ads could be better? FYI, any website/kennel should be all about advertising here because google gives this site very high rankings and can only lead to a higher placement in google search. A website linked to the database through classified will help the placement of your site possibly 10 fold. I would venture to guess 10000s of dogs have been sold through this site directly or indirectly. We could charge but then that affects the small kennel. We could possibly look into an escrow company to back the expensive purchases but this would also add to the cost of selling the dog. So, if anyone has any ideas we would love to hear them. |
GSD Admin by remione1 on 19 March 2012 - 22:51 |
| I would say more sarcasm than funny but.... So your saying breedings all about selling puppies & exaggerating an average pup & trying to sell off the name of a distant relative???? Seriously if all these dogs are "super, extra, blah blah, why are they for sale? GSD, Have you guys thought of sponsors for individual forums? Just random example..... A working kennel sponsoring the Sport/working forum. He donates x amout of $$ & his kennel banner runs on top of the forum for x amount of days he rents it for. That type of system worked on another forum I belong to & has generated revenue. Also maybe make different classes of ads for sellers. Basic ad - free = words only & email. Premium ad - $$ = Pictures, links to ped, link to kennel. Just some things that I've seen on other ones. Good luck |
by SitasMom on 19 March 2012 - 23:05 |
Yes, I've developed many leads by advertising here. The buyers are well educated and only want the best for a fair price. |
by GSD Admin on 19 March 2012 - 23:11 |
| Good ideas. Keep them coming. |
by Zep on 19 March 2012 - 23:25 |
| remione1, Who's to say the pups are average? I imagine they are for sale because that's what breeders do (who keeps them all?) I bought a pup without knowing the pedagree (or even caring really, to be honest) until I saw how exceptional he was and wanted to know more about where he came from. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=748890 Now I highly doubt I will ever take Shadow to that level, but given the money and the time, I believe he could come close if I applied him and myself. And I can tell he has those traits. (even tho it is his grandfather (Vegas)) Zep-- |
by workingdogz on 20 March 2012 - 09:31 |
| GSD Admin How about this as a BARE minimum? Anyone advertising a litter provide proof of hips/elbows being rated on the sire and dam? Obviously not every country requires working titles, but hip/elbow clearances could be the very bare minimum you could ask for here. At some point it's up to the buyer to do some research on their own, but if you can put some minimal standards in place, it would eliminate a lot of those 'pennysaver' ads for litters we see here. Perhaps anyone listing more than __ litters in a calendar year can pay a small fee? Same as dogs, list more than __ and you can pay a small fee? Just my 2 cents worth.  |
by remione1 on 20 March 2012 - 20:35 |
| Zep Said: "Who's to say the pups are average? I imagine they are for sale because that's what breeders do (who keeps them all?) I bought a pup without knowing the pedagree (or even caring really, to be honest) until I saw how exceptional he was and wanted to know more about where he came from. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=748890 Now I highly doubt I will ever take Shadow to that level, but given the money and the time, I believe he could come close if I applied him and myself. And I can tell he has those traits. (even tho it is his grandfather (Vegas)) Zep--" Now I wonder why there are so many people on here & other sites talking about the diminishing German Shepherd Dog with so many exceptional pups being sold. I made my comment as more sarcasm but lets get into this topic. I've only been involved with working dogs for about 2.5 years. Studying, asking questions, & trying to see as many dogs as possible working. Studied for months before I chose my first pup & still defered to training partners for their opinions. I do understand that breeders embelish thier dogs & throw the catchy phrase of the day on them for people like you who don't do thier homework (not a knock, you said it) but really why? If your dog is all those things you say he/she is why not just say "For sale, xxx amount of dollars, & links to videos, pedigrees. No need to be a car salesman, let the dog sell itself IF it's so exceptional. Even with my novice eye I can tell from a video if I want to get further info about the dog. I think they say those things for the people who don't do their homework & just buy the flashy words. A suckers born every minute, right? Just curious..... what made you buy your dog without researching him? Again not a knock just curious. You said that he can be a high level dog & you see traits that his Grandfather Vegas passed down to him. I assume that if you see all this in him you have alot of experience with dogs, gsd showlines, & or Vegas yet you bought a dog without research....... |
by Von Savitch K9 on 20 March 2012 - 20:52 |
| Well thanks for all the comments, I have yet to sell a dog or pup directly of the classified adds but will agree with the Admin here. The internet exposure you get from a classfied add on the PDB is very good it increases my web traffic by a great deal. Thanks PDB |
by macrowe1 on 20 March 2012 - 22:00 |
| hahahaha remoine that's true! VA-3 CHAMP, um where is this in it's pedigree? I'm sorry, but if you breed your dog just because 3 generations back there is a titled so-and-so, but nothing in between, then you're not helping the breed at all. You're in it to make money. As for Admin, I'm for having to show proof of hip/elbow testing to post ads on here. I just posted about someone who keeps posting on here, who breeds her dogs under age 2, with no genetic testing, no hip scores, no elbow scores, no titles. All the pictures of the dogs are outside in the dirt, chained up, some are skinny, some have hair loss, some have eye issues. |
macrowe1 by SitasMom on 21 March 2012 - 03:06 |
If one looks at the dogs listed on the pdeigree database, and do lots searching, you just might find some dogs boasting better hips then stated on this page. This database is what it is, user based, and can must rely on the users to be truthful. If a buyer is truly interested in purchasing, breeding or researching one must be very careful. |
by VonIsengard on 21 March 2012 - 03:33 |
| I have connected with breeders who I then bought from and sellers on this site. Both were excellent experiences, because I am capable of doing my homework, both ways. Crooks are everywhere, don't blame the website. |
VonIsengard by Von Savitch K9 on 21 March 2012 - 23:26 |
| Not sure why everyone is so hung up on titles in the pedigree, the ansewer I come up with is they dont know how to choose a dog otherwise. A good trainer will acheive a title on a week dog, a very solid dog with a lack luster trainer will fail. These are not my opinions but facts |
by darylehret on 22 March 2012 - 00:38 |
| To my best reckoning, I have never sold or purchased a dog through this website. Charging would sure clear up the total number of classified posts to filter through (which is far too many, and lacking more useful search information besides "location"). But there are numerous websites that charge already, and are still not able to offer any better exposure, apparently. I say charge, and make applicants fill form-boxes that will help with the prospective buyers search criteria, with information such as the hip and elbow ratings and registration numbers of the parents, prices, tattoo or microchip numbers, etc. Maybe a fine for using "TOP" or "EXTRA" in the description. Bastages. |
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