German Shepherd Dog > Female too small to breed to male? (9 replies)
Female too small to breed to male?
by Gizewski on 19 March 2012 - 00:06
|Is that ever true? I have a czech workingline black female that is 70lbs and 3 years old. She has an athletic build. I have a male with strictly West German lineage high drive, protective, starting schutzhund in a few weeks, and working him with a little obedience now. 9.5 months and already 89lbs. The vet asked if I was going to breed them and I didnt plan on it. If I do... would there be a chance that the pups are going to be too big for the mom to have a natural birth? That is a concern that the vet threw at me. If I do breed I am going to make sure that the pups go to homes where they will be worked and when my male is ready.|
by joanro on 19 March 2012 - 01:21
|Get a vet who knows more about a dog's reproduction. After all, seventy pounds is a nice, normal size for a female GSD. Your vet sounds inexperienced or else he wants you to spay.|
by Jenni78 on 19 March 2012 - 03:35
|Sounds like your typical, reproductively clueless DVM. |
That's like saying women shouldn't have babies with men significantly larger than they are. Last I checked, most females of the species are, on average, smaller.
by HighDesertGSD on 19 March 2012 - 21:51
|70 lb female small?|
may be if she is obese and only 20 inches tall.
70 lb 24 inch female is just the best size.
fact is you should look for the best stud, not your male.
by aceofspades on 19 March 2012 - 23:54
|My Janna is a solid and compact 65lb. My other female last weighed in at 73lb and she could stand to lose a few pounds.|
by VKGSDs on 20 March 2012 - 00:57
|I have a 50lb female that was bred to a large WGSL male (before I owned her) and she was just fine. IMO 70lbs is normal going on large for a female GSD.|
by BoCRon on 20 March 2012 - 12:42
|My showline male came from a female that weighed 64lbs at time of the breeding. The male she was bred to weighed about 90-95lbs at time of breeding. She had 5 healthy boys, not an issue and never was. Not sure about that vet?|
On another note, breeding working line to showline is a risky proposition. Most puppy buyers are firmly in search of one or the other, so don't be surprised if you end up with a litter of pups that you end up giving away. There are instances of wl/sl breedings that sell, but usually it is a VERY knowledgeable and experienced breeder who is doing the cross for a specific purpose and the buyers are getting the pups based on the breeders expectations and reputation.
by aceofspades on 20 March 2012 - 16:02
|My Janna is a SL/WL but her SL father also has his Sch3 and all of the dogs in her pedigree (with I think one exception) on both mom ad dad side are Sch titled most 2&3 so while it can and is done, I agree that it is something generally done by knowledgeable breeders who have buyers lined up for a specific breeding before they breed.|
by CMills on 21 March 2012 - 02:48
|70# is a good sized female, not small. and I've had litters sired by my 100# WGSL stud out of 60# females without a single glitch, so it's not going to be a problem.|
by Emoore on 21 March 2012 - 03:52
|The only time I've ever seen a female too small to bred to a male was raising beef cattle. The little 500-600lb maiden heifers would have a really hard time if you bred them to a 2000lb + bull. For those keeping score at home, the male was THREE TO FOUR TIMES the size of the female. Equivalent to breeding your 70lb bitch to a 210-290lb dog. Breed the maiden heifers to a younger, smaller bull and there's no problem. I don't think your 70lb bitch would have an issue, but that doesn't mean your dog is the right male for her.|