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Table training?
by EisenFaust on 12 March 2012 - 05:33
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How many of you on this board do any table training for bitework or any other reasons? Do any of you do this training yourself on your own dogs?
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by workingdogz on 12 March 2012 - 11:01
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We have used a table in training correct position
with puppies/young dogs ie: sitz/platz etc.

Also for achieving a calm hold with a dumb bell.
We have never had a need to use
one for bitework yet, but would not rule it out.

As far as using for obedience, it certainly has saved
our wore out old backs and knees from bending
over so much!  

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by judron55 on 12 March 2012 - 11:41
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I have seen it used and have had my male on it twice...didn't seem to enhance anything already being done. Not saying it's not a valuable tool...just that my experience is very limited:-)  
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by Bob McKown on 12 March 2012 - 11:48
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 I,d contact Gene England if I were intrested in table training. 
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by UglyK9 on 12 March 2012 - 12:49
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Most of our work is done using the tables in Tracking, Protection and to a degree obedience. For us, it is the best way to build a balanced, controllable, confident, powerful dog.

Agree with Bob, Unless you contact Gene or someone that you know for a fact works closely with him on a continuous basis and knows and UNDERSTANDS the table work you will get many incorrectly skewed opinions and instructions on how to properly implement the tables.  This is absolutely not something that can be explained or learned via the internet or a thread. 

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by Ace952 on 12 March 2012 - 16:31
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We use it at my club.  My helper learned it from Gene and from what I see it is used for everything and not just bitework.  I use it on my 20 month old and I have a 6 month old who will get her first session sometime this month.  I remember first hearing about it and was unsure of it but after reading up and learning from my club helper I see nothing wrong with it.  As Bob & Uglyk9 said, make sure you get with someone who knows what they are doing...that is the hard part.

One thing is true...it will save your back.  lol!

here is a youtube video of Gene.

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by EisenFaust on 12 March 2012 - 18:20
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I have been using it for the gripps and for frustraiting the young dogs in bitework. Has anyone used it to frustrait the young dogs to increase ball drive.
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by Slamdunc on 12 March 2012 - 20:37
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I use it with our Police K-9's.  I also went to Gene's, it was very interesting and I have implemented the training for our unit.
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by yellowrose of Texas on 17 July 2012 - 03:12
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   Grimmdog,   Nate Harves is also a good trainer who does use tables and does know how to teach you .


 YR
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by destiny4u on 17 July 2012 - 03:54
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http://leerburg.com/tabletrain.htm
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by yellowrose of Texas on 17 July 2012 - 09:01
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 Leerburg does not use tables and he is not a good reference for any kind of table training..

  His experience is not what table people need.  YOU cannot learn TABLE TRAINING FROM INTERNET or tapes or videos.

  Dangerous   ONLY serious people with serious dogs with serious Trainers in charge.

  YR
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by yellowrose of Texas on 17 July 2012 - 09:07
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  The art of Table training is not just putting a dog up on a table.

   It is an intense way of using a certain TYPE of table..built for the purpose of holding a dog in place for intense focus, intense serious temperament  problem solving, and the use to try to pull out of dogs that are being bitework trained for PD or for protection work , that every inch of intense ness in the correct time and way..YOU have to be able to read a dog and understand his facial and his body language to use TABLE TRAINING>

IT is used with collars and they have to be attached in a certain length and a certain way..

  DO not try table training unless yu go to a seminar from GENE ENGLAND or Nate or one of their trained helpers trained by either of them or someone who is and has been trained in the TABLES>

IT is not for amateurs.

YR
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by ejax on 18 July 2012 - 01:10
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There are many people who use the table for training but I would suggest Gene England also. Went down last year and it really works well when done correctly. The guarding was greatly enhanced.
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