German Shepherd Dog > DNA testing for long coat / dominant black / coat colors (14 replies)

DNA testing for long coat / dominant black / coat colors
by cphudson on 08 March 2012 - 22:30
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Has anyone done this yet, or would you consider it - http://www.animalgenetics.us/Canine/Canine.asp 

Kind of amazing what they can test for in DNA now, uh? This company can test for DM too.



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by Abby Normal on 08 March 2012 - 22:54
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I know OF breeders that have dog(s) DNA tested for coat length and advertised as unable to produce LC's. Haven't personally seen it done (yet) for colour. Only ever come across it in show breeders as the reason appears to be entirely cosmetic, and to be able to offer studs guaranteed to produce only what could win in a show ring. DNA testing for health, different matter entirely of course. JMO.
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by cphudson on 08 March 2012 - 23:19
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I've never heard of anyone doing it yet either. But what you said makes sense about show breeders / studs not able to produce LC

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by oregontnt2007 on 09 March 2012 - 00:41
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for our GSD & Mali's, we used DDC vet labs. They too have a long coat DNA test for GSD & DM too

PLUS we ran a Uric Acid DNA Test (Hyperuricosuria) on our Mali & it came up clean, but the DM shown n/c for her  :( UGH   on


Uric Acid DNA Test (Hyperuricosuria) 

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by CMills on 09 March 2012 - 01:11
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I've had Animal Genetics do all my DM testing, and also tested some of mine for the long coat gene, so I know that they do it.
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by djc on 09 March 2012 - 01:21
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My best friend had it done on her stud dog and he came back negative for long coat. BUT he produced a long coat... Don't think they have all the wrinkles worked out.
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by TingiesandTails on 09 March 2012 - 02:45
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I had my mixed breed dog tested for breeds, just for fun. I don't believe in medical genetic testing in general. I would not get tested or test my dogs. No genetic test can guarantee 100% accuracy, even if the test producer try to make you believe...
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by dogshome9 on 09 March 2012 - 07:16
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Well I don't need a DNA test so far 10 litters total of 45 puppies in 8 years ------------ not 1 long coat produced.

Not sayin that it won't happen just not yet.

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by aaykay on 09 March 2012 - 12:02
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My best friend had it done on her stud dog and he came back negative for long coat. BUT he produced a long coat... Don't think they have all the wrinkles worked out.
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Was the Dam of the resultant puppy tested for it too, with a negative result ?  If the Dam was not tested, then of course she had the long-coat gene in her and passed it onto the pups.
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by Abby Normal on 09 March 2012 - 12:15
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One advert for a stud I know of that has been tested says 'tested negative for the LC gene which means cannot produce LC puppies even if mated to a LC female' which suggests that you need both dogs to carry the gene to produce long coats.
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by cphudson on 09 March 2012 - 13:48
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I thought you needed both dogs to carry the LC gene also to produce LC. They also offer a dominant black DNA test for black GSD's, which I thought was a urban legend / very rare.
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by djc on 09 March 2012 - 14:17
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aahkay,
BOTH dogs have to carry the longcoat gene in order to produce longcoats! The female WAS a know carrier and it was the plan to not produce longcoats. YES, even if she WAS a longcoat, (which she wasn't) if she was bred to a stud that did not carry longcoat, longcoat will not produce longcoat unless BOTH parents carry it. Period.
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by myret on 10 March 2012 - 18:08
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I dont really get the point In dont want to get lc its just as much a fine working dog as a normal sc and the lsc has just been aproved for breeding
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by myret on 10 March 2012 - 18:09
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I dont really get the point In dont want to get lc its just as much a fine working dog as a normal sc and the lsc has just been aproved for breeding
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by Abby Normal on 10 March 2012 - 23:32
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Serious show people do not want LC. It was only recently that LCs became acceptable again (in Germany), and even then only in their own separate registries/classes.

I agree, LSC can do anything SC can, and they are very beautiful. But, as I say, I have only ever known show people do the test for that reason.

I guess it might have some value in extremely hot countries where you don't want to produce a long coated dog that may suffer more in extremes of heat with a long coat? I don't know, it's a thought. It would be nice to think of it having a useful purpose!
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