German Shepherd Dog > RSV200. This looks like it could be something really good. (15 replies)
RSV200. This looks like it could be something really good.
by Nadeem6 on 04 March 2012 - 12:58
|Hopefully this will be a better direction for the breed than the current politics in the organazations we have. Got my fingers crossed. |
There is a English translator on the upper right corner just click the British flag.
by Q Man on 04 March 2012 - 14:27
|The RSV2000 and Dr. Helmut Raiser has some very interesting ideas on the German Shepherd Breed and What and How it should be advanced to keep the Working Ability in our dogs...|
The SV has done a lot of very good things and must be congratuated for bringing it this far...But we must be very aggressive in our breedings to keep our breed from becoming just a Show Dog and NOT a Working Dog...
As the saying goes..."We Must Think Outside the Box"...in our thinking and what we know and believe in when doing breedings...
Last April I got to attend one of the Annual Meetings of the RSV2000 in Germany...Got to meet and talk to Dr. Raiser about what he's trying to accomplish and why he's spent so much of his own Time and Resources in starting such an organization...
This organization is very progressive in it's thoughts on what MUST be done to keep the Working Ability in our German Shepherds...
It takes so much time to get the information from Germany to the U.S. and then to the people...and then to believe in and use in their breedings...
The RSV2000 now does everything that the SV does but with a different point of view...Like anything new...It'll take time for other countries to understand and to utilize the information that they suggest...
by Gustav on 04 March 2012 - 15:31
|Here in America, we think competition makes things become better.......I THINK????????|
by KatriS on 04 March 2012 - 15:37
|What are the procedures that RSV2000 is taking to keep the working abilities? The organization's idea sounds very good, but I haven't been able to find any detailed information though I've been browsing the site. Could someone summarize or link some of the main things the RSV2000 does in order to resume gsd as a working dog. How does it differ from SV? Thanks.|
by vomeisenhaus on 04 March 2012 - 20:52
|From what I "hear" we can't register anything here in the u.s with akc that has rsv2000 registration??? If that's true its a shame. I like the mainieche kennel and wanted to import one of his puppies in maybe a year or so and I believe he is with the rsv2000 now.|
by duke1965 on 04 March 2012 - 20:56
|you can read all about Helmut Raiser and RSV2000 in english, in the new World Of K9 Magazine www.worldofk9.com|
by guddu on 04 March 2012 - 21:07
|I think its a matter of time, that the AKC will allow registration. Once RSV2000 is allowed a spot in the WUSV..things should open up. I would anticipate that the RSV and the regular SV will compete for top placing, and ultimately the organizations will combine...or that the current SV become a group for the show lines.|
by Gusmanda on 04 March 2012 - 21:25
|From what I "hear" we can't register anything here in the u.s with akc that has rsv2000 registration???|
My understanding is that is the case. Ask Koach, he is looking into how to allow the registration in Canada, not sure if anyone is pressing for that to occur in the states yet.
The RSV2000 cup is getting more competitors of high quality each year, know some people who will be ditching WUSV in favor of RSV this year.
by Koach on 04 March 2012 - 23:29
|As Gusmanda said we are working hard to get the RSV2000's registry recognized in Canada with the CKC. So far we are butting our heads against a brick wall but we won't give up. It would be nice if some of our American friends would do the same in the USA.|
by Isa on 09 March 2012 - 05:24
The registration in the AKC must be very easy, because if you buy a dog from a breeder out of the RSV2000, the breeder/seller has to ask at the VDH(german kennel club) for an exportpedigree for the dog include the new owner and adress and with this paper it could not be difficult to ask for the registration.
It´s the same procedure like with a puppy or dog out of the SV.
Our understanding and interpretation.
Isa and Andreas
by Koach on 09 March 2012 - 11:58
It is not so simple to register a RSV2000 dog in North America. Since last June Helmut Raiser and I have been requesting that CKC in Canada accept the RSV2000 registry. So far they have said no and that they only accept SV papers for the GSD out of Germany. The AKC sems to be the same.
Last evening I received the following from Helmut which I have to have translated as I do not understand German.
Maybe someone would be so kind as to do it for me.
me-b / 08. Mrz. 2012
Canadian Kennel Club
hier: Anerkennung der Ahnentafeln der VDH-Mitgliedsvereine
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
in den vergangenen Jahren gab es immer wieder Probleme mit dem Canadian Kennel Club
(CKC) bei der Übernahme von aus Deutschland importierten Hunden in das Zuchtbuch des
CKC, z. B. wurden kostenpflichtige Verträge mit den einzelnen deutschen Rassehundezuchtvereinen
verlangt, um eine Eintragung/Übernahme von Hunden mit Ahnentafel/
Registrierbescheinigung des jeweiligen Vereins zu ermöglichen.
Nach mehreren Klärungsversuchen, die jeweils leider nur zur kurzzeitigen Verbesserung der Situation
führten, ist es nunmehr gelungen, mit dem CKC eine Vereinbarung zu treffen, dass alle
Hunde, deren Ahnentafel/Registrierbescheinigung mit einer VDH-Auslandsanerkennung versehen
ist, vom CKC akzeptiert werden, ohne dass weitere Anforderungen an den Verein oder Hundehalter
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
by Bob McKown on 09 March 2012 - 12:27
You can copy the text and go to Google translate and paste it there and it will automaticaly translate to english. I,ve tried to copy and paste back to here the tranlsated version but to no avail the system here won,t except it.
It looks like the RSV has solved the issue and the CKC will shortly begin allowing there pedigree,s.
by Koach on 09 March 2012 - 13:08
I did use Google translate and 2 others and the translations come out different with each one. That is why I posted here.
by Isa on 09 March 2012 - 16:39
|Hi Bob, you are right, it´s no more a problem, they find an agreement with the CKC they accept now the RSV2000-Pedigree´s.|
it looks like it was a general problem with the CKC, because the information above is written from the Business-Director Mr. Meyer to all VDH-Member-Club´s.
We can´t understand if only the RSV2000 would have problems with the registration, because in Germany they exist 4 Club´s for Belgian Shepherds under the roof of the VDH and never we had heard of any problems in registration a dog in a forreign country, if the Export-Pedigree have the officíal stamps from the VDH and FCI.
Hope it help´s a little bit
Isa and Andreas
by Gusmanda on 09 March 2012 - 17:28
|I wonder how much $ someone in the AKC is getting in return for not allowing RSV2000. There is really no logic why not to allow it (other than $ of course).|
by Bob McKown on 09 March 2012 - 18:05
I would think since there recongnized by both the FCI and VDH it will also be in short order in the U.S.