German Shepherd Dog > Anybody knows of Black V rated, KKL1 plush coated male? (24 replies)
Anybody knows of Black V rated, KKL1 plush coated male?
by GSDPACK on 02 March 2012 - 19:21
|So a friend asked me and I have no clue. I am aware of one male in CA out of Orry (IT).|
I am just curious. But only in the US... do you guys know of other male/s?
by Silbersee on 02 March 2012 - 19:53
|Are you talking about a long stockcoated dog? I am never sure what the definition of "plush" is. That term really does not exist in the breed standard.|
Anyway, I really only know of one KKL1 V-rated long stockcoat in balck - he is magnificent, but does not reside in the U.S., unfortunately. He is located in Germany and has his titled and survey from the SV. All other black long stockcoats might be located in one of the two non-FCI recognized clubs. Breeding to them would not be recognized by the AKC, either!
The dog's name is Buffalo-Bill: http://www.working-dog.eu/dogs-details/79492/Buffalo-Bill-von-Tjaernshaget
by GSDPACK on 02 March 2012 - 20:18
|Darnet, what do I know, a long coat would be the definition.. Buffalo-Bill is a handsome man!|
by CMills on 02 March 2012 - 23:49
|How about V-Britt Alanex, ZVV1, Kkl 1 in Ca?|
by Xaver vom Kammberg Owner on 03 March 2012 - 00:06
What is your interest?
Sperm speciman, puppy, adult, live cover stud service?
Good luck looking finding whatever you are looking for!
by CMills on 03 March 2012 - 00:58
|Trish- not to sound like a smart-ass or anything, but you posted dogs that are not what the OP specifically asked for??|
by Bhaugh on 03 March 2012 - 02:37
|And I too am not looking to be a smart ass but where are your hip and elbow scores? Maybe I just missed that.....|
by GSDPACK on 03 March 2012 - 02:44
yes, thank you, he was the one I know off. Brit is the one out of Orry (IT).
thank you, I am not looking into breeding a female. I only wanted to know if there are all Black V rated KKL1 long coated males pretty much besides Brit Alanex.
Thanks all.. maybe there are. I now know of another one, thank you Silbersee but he is not in the US.
by CMills on 03 March 2012 - 02:50
|You're welcome, good luck in your search, I love the blacks!|
by Xaver vom Kammberg Owner on 03 March 2012 - 03:23
|Hi again.........I don't take any offense, I just was curious as to what the asker was looking for and why?|
Sperm, Puppy out of, spending 20k for that particular dog? I have done elbows and hips on both males and they both rated good, and elbows free, yes! I will re-write my post.
I will just simply say, what is the reason you are seeking. Warmly from,
http://www.hasshaus.com and Trish, a kinder, gentler poster
Hansel's hip rating has always been below his photo, now Barron's is also
Forgive me, I used to be a rocket surgeon, now I just own a fine Dog Lodge and Spa
by CMills on 03 March 2012 - 03:47
|I think the OP states what he's looking for, and really none of anyone elses business why. JMHO|
by Xaver vom Kammberg Owner on 03 March 2012 - 04:53
|WHy so mean C MIlls? |
I'm not sure why I only have 5 posts listed, I've been here for hundreds of posts up until 2012, guess I'll stick to learning and not posting. You are a mean one, Ouch
You know all the dogs he's looking for, set him up! Thanks for smashing me, hope you feel superior!
by hexe on 03 March 2012 - 05:52
|I'm boggled of mind trying to figure out what a 'rocket surgeon' is....|
by EuroShepherd on 03 March 2012 - 06:12
|lol, ditto Hexe. |
Just some kindly advice, Xaver. unless someone has the exact specifics that a poster is looking for, it's considered bad taste to post about stud dogs (or anything for sale/services offered and personal/business websites) in the discussion boards here. Actually wouldn't surprise me if it's a violation (amongst the many rules of PDB.)
If someone wants to share with someone else about what they have to offer, it's best to send that person a private message.
Also, just a tip. Don't post your messages in large fonts, even if it's not all caps it still looks like shouting.
by Xaver vom Kammberg Owner on 03 March 2012 - 09:51
|Sure, that makes very good sense Euroshepherd, thank you Those were well said words, and helpful, C Mills was downright mean and|
didn't teach me anything, you have.
Someone asked about an "in boarding" kennel for SchH training, and I handed out a name there also where Xaver got his SchH III
Should I have pm'd that one also? I love to learn, really. I didn't realize the font was so large. Solly
Rocket surgeon is a joke, a cross between a rocket scientist and a brain surgeon. Lighten up and laugh, even at me! I do it all the time!
by clc29 on 05 March 2012 - 01:53
|What about Voodoo? He's here is New Mexico.|
I've never seen him personally but, I hear (from some of our club members) that he is a really nice dog.
by BritneyP on 05 March 2012 - 04:42
|As far as I know, Voodoo is not considered a coated dog.. he is a regular stock coat.|
by EuroShepherd on 06 March 2012 - 04:33
|I was thinking Voodoo too, he carries for the long coat gene. |
I think of plush coat meaning a thicker coat for both stock coat and long coat. The plush stock coat is what is most desired in the show ring. There are short/thin stock coats and thin/sparse long coats...dogs that lack undercoat. Plush coat imo is a thick undercoat.
But some people define plush coat as meaning long coat. I've never seen an official description of the term.
Xaver, you're welcome. As far as giving someone info about boarding/schutzhund training. Since they asked and you had the specific info then it would have been ok to post it in the thread. But sending them a private message was ok too.
by EchoEcho on 06 March 2012 - 19:08
|Plush coat is a show term and it is hard to describe but you know it when you see it. Voodoo (IMO) looks like a plush coat. Plush coat is usually a way to describe a coat that is a little longer but the dog isn't at all long around the ears, back of the ears, between the toes, or on the back of the front legs. Plush coated dogs usually have a fullness all around but particularly in the chest and tail. Most plush coats do carry for the long coat gene however, when you breed two plush coats you usually don't get 25% of the puppies with LC (maybe 1 or none in the litter). First dog Buffalo Bill would be a long coat. There are many types of long coat however, the breed standard doesn't allow for a long coat and doesn't recognize all the different long coats.|
by djc on 07 March 2012 - 19:01
|Plush coat to me is not a long coat, but a dog that has a thick coat as opposed to a dog that has a "close" coat. close coat is one that is not thick and close to the body but still has undercoat. thick plush coat would be one that is much fuller but not long coat.|
I have a plush solid black that I believe will V rate in a couple of years when he is finished being titled. I will put up some stacked pictures as soon as I get some help to stack him. He is 6 months old right now and super conformation and coat! Here's his pedigree: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=743862
As you can see he also has Orry! I am in Indiana USA.
Echo, the SV breed standard DOES allow for longcoats now and they DO distinguish between the types.
Watch for AKC to follow one of these years... lol