German Shepherd Dog > Breeding age and standards (32 replies)
by Blitzen on 22 February 2012 - 14:49
I think the OP can find plenty of appropriate information by clicking on the links provided here. A note to the PA federation - the PA Puppy Lemon law was the result of so many Pa puppymilllers sellling sick dogs to the public. Msot of thsoe breeders were in Lancaster County.
by VKGSDs on 22 February 2012 - 15:04
|Why ask questions about toy dog breeding on the GSD subforum? I don't want toy dog breeders deciding how and when I can breed GSDs so who am I to know anything about how toy breed should be bred and cared for...|
by darylehret on 22 February 2012 - 15:19
|No, I'm not familiar, and as I said, not speaking in their defense either. But, if they're well cared for, that might include regular intervals of excercise time in the yards or fields, sufficient staff to oversee and interact with them. THAT's more significant than their breeding age. Dogs might be considered livestock in PA, but they are social animals that shouldn't be penned up like cattle in a feedlot or dogs at an asian meat market.|
by SitasMom on 22 February 2012 - 15:28
while 105 is a large number, i still believe that as long as these dogs are "healthy", "clean" and kept in crates/kennels large enough for them "move freely", its none of "governments" business.
by Blitzen on 22 February 2012 - 15:37
|Most are not well cared for. When I lived in PA the local TV station aired an expose on those puppymills. Most of their dogs never see the light of day. When the cameras arrived, some of those breeders had made up a sort of treadmill to prove that their dogs got exercise. It was essentially a wire cage big enough for a large terrier fitted with a walking belt. No electricity, so the dog had to make the belt move by walking or running on it. Mulitple dogs jammed into small cages, pretty digusting to most of us, but the owner was proudly smiling forom ear to ear; he felt it was heaven on earth for "just a DOG". Never did understand how any of them knew which dogs sired which litters as they were not segregated by sex. I guess the first dog they saw tied with the bitch was the dog they listed as the sire.|
I won't even tell you how they treat their horses. The lucky ones that don't die from exhaustion end up at auctions purchased by horse lovers to keep them from being slaughtered. A few lucky ones end up places like Cape May, NJ used on tour buggies where they are treated very well by their owners.
by SitasMom on 22 February 2012 - 18:05
|there are so many laws on the books, what is needed is for the laws to be enforced......|
no new laws are needed...
by darylehret on 22 February 2012 - 18:11
Guide for the Care and Use of Laboratory Animals
by SitasMom on 22 February 2012 - 19:00
|the laws are already on the books, present laws must be enforced........before any new laws are added......|
"(a) Dogs housed individually - Dogs over 12 weeks of age, except bitches with litters, must be provided a regular opportunity for exercise if they are individually in enclosures that provide less than two times the floor space required for that dog under section 3.6(c)(1) (i.e. length of dog in inches + 6) x (length of dog in inches + 6)/ 144 = required floor space in square feet. (3.8(a))."
this code goes on to spellout veterinarian care, required bookkeeping, and a million other requirements.
if the poster really wants to "adopt a new ordinance" the ordinance could be very short....
"dog breeding businesses shall comply with all federal laws"
end of ordinance.....
by darylehret on 22 February 2012 - 19:11
|My dogs are putting together their list of demands for the enrichment program even as I type. One has volunteered to go into undercover assignment and infiltrate the lair of these evildoers. There's a "smoking treadmill", and they're going to find it. Covert ops team on standby... this could get wet.|
by sleghtebruute on 23 February 2012 - 14:42
|Thanks for the links! A few of them were exactly what I was looking for.|
by CMills on 24 February 2012 - 23:47
|I have to say I've seen owners of 1 or 2 dogs that take far less care of them than people who have up to 20 dogs. People who just tie their dog out to an old drafty rotten dog house, rarely have fresh water, poor quality food, none or scant vet care, little shade. I can guarantee that my 12 dogs have far better lives, each one has it's own 8 x 18ft kennel on concrete, indoor/outdoor heated/air conditioned building to go in/out of, complete vet care, heartworm and flea/tick preventative, high quality food, clean water daily, large 1 acre dog yards for daily exercise/running time, etc/etc. They rotate through the house, 5 dogs inside at all times. So I don't think it's as much as how many dogs a person has as to the care/treatment of each and every dog one owns. I don't think we need more regulating by government.|
by trixx on 26 February 2012 - 22:30
|ok i will bite - min. age 2 years , max age 10 years ( if they are still in good shape)|
by Donnerstorm on 27 February 2012 - 02:17
|Daryle, if your dogs are already coming up with commands could you please make sure they don't talk with any other gsds for a while? If they get together and organize a union we are screwed!!|