German Shepherd Dog > PARVO!!! (59 replies)
by macrowe1 on 14 February 2012 - 19:26
|I know Parvo is on the rise down here (Alabama), then again it hasn't really gotten cold. It could be a false positive, but with the symptoms it's not likely. The vaccs didn't cause a positive. Bleach, bleach, bleach. And that's a lot of puppies, any more of them sick?|
by momosgarage on 14 February 2012 - 19:49
|Parvo lives a long time with no host. When I was a kid my grandmother aquired 3 young GSD all at once . We lost one to parvo within the first few months of owning him. Over 5 years later we got two young Irish Setters (not puppies) and one died almost immediately from Parvo. I would say once its on you property it will be many years before its finally gone.|
by NO FEAR on 14 February 2012 - 19:50
|Not nice & you have my sympaty to a degree but smacks of puppy farming to me !|
by yellowrose of Texas on 14 February 2012 - 20:02
I live in rural with woods all around me and deer on my property as they jump fences and also armaldillo and others , like squirrels all day long, and skunks also.
My pups however , if for sale, have one play area and are raised in a nursery with play pens outside and indoors and never go where those creatures go.
NOW we also fenced off the creek so the females cannot go swimming while preggy and no males get to it either...We know people throw all kinds of trash and unwanted liquids or materials in creeks across a wide range of upstream so that we remedied 6 yrs ago...
MY vacinated dogs go everywhere but not pups. Until they are older and have their immunity good and solid..
THey get all the rough housing and training in my house and the fenced area around my house not going into the rest of the 3 acres...WHEN the pups are older, they go to woods with me, but only the woods on my property which like you suggested, has had lots of wild creatures running thru it.
Healthy environment and healthy food and total commitment to a cautious environment is lots of tedius work and I have made many a person mad not letting them hold pups or cuddle them or make goo goo over a new pup..NO one touches my pups while they are under the age of their immunity which leaves after 4-7 weeks , not knowing ever for sure as MOMS milk helped the borderline carry over but no one can be sure..
I think our medical companies have short cut all vacines and heard tale that a lot of it is being made in China and not regulated by USA at all..
I am not breeding and have not in 3 yrs now so am so glad the vaccine problems I see now, were not the same I saw when I had litters to care for, nor finding a Dog food that is made in usa and not a corn field of trash and by-products which I still have problems with when raw is not in my kitchen.
by beetree on 14 February 2012 - 20:14
|I can tell you emphatically, that pharmaceutical ingredients made in China for use in the USA must follow FDA rules for quality. And are tested for such. It is the final products bought outside the USA that one can never be too sure as to their composition and quality.|
by benzi on 15 February 2012 - 04:05
|Parvo has a very distinctive smell. I have fortunately not smelled it in 20 years or so. Hard to describe, but it is not normal diarreah smell, it's like rotting tissue. It can also be very yellow and sticky...good luck, hope it's a false test and the healthy ones can survive.|
by Von Ward Kennels on 15 February 2012 - 04:16
The female puppy returned to me tested neg. for Parvo today! So I am hoping the one that did test positve had gotten it elsewhere but I am still not letting my guard down. The vet is thinking it was Salmonella but my main concern was that Parvo was not an issue. So the pup is doing great! No problems at all. She is on antibiotics and is very robust.
by kitkat3478 on 15 February 2012 - 12:41
|Very happy to hear so far-so good for your pups.I hope all goes well for your youngest guys. And I tell kennel hoppers,don't come here AFTER you have been elsewhere. My welcome matt screams Clorox when I have pups. I also just read the AVA guidelines on shots,it's going to be hard,but I got to rethink my immunizationk scheduale. Have to do a bit more research (old dog, newk trick thing).|
by NO FEAR on 15 February 2012 - 17:25
All your females just happened to come into seson together but did you have to mate them all ? Only one reason I can think of " puppy farming"
by Von Ward Kennels on 15 February 2012 - 17:53
by joanro on 15 February 2012 - 18:13
|I have to comment on the " ... importance of breeding every heat until retired...." thing. Stephanie, have you ever seen or heard of a bitch having so many litters back to back until her poor, worn out uterus can't take any more and ruptures, killing the bitch?? It happens and there is no excuse for overbreeding. Dogs are not livestock, there is no shortage of them and even hog farmers and cattlemen rest their females.|
by Von Ward Kennels on 15 February 2012 - 21:03
|It's nice how people put words in my mouth. Since when did I say I bred my dogs until they were worn out? I have never bred a bitch more than 5 times. And NO I have never seen a dog where it's uterus ruptures. My dogs don't get to that state.|
I work on a cattle ranch and they are bred EVERY year. We rotate the bulls on the pastures. Maybe some ranchers rest thier livestock but the ranch I work on does not. They have the best looking animals around. Very well cared for.
by NO FEAR on 15 February 2012 - 21:42
I have no issues with anyone breeding a healthy female 4 or 5 times in her life time but when you breed 3 females within weeks of each other in smacks of puppy farming . What need other than financial would one have to do this ? Are you running a puppy on from each litter ?
by Vertigo75 on 16 February 2012 - 00:21
|Just addressing the whole "rabies vax cures the disease" statement. This is not exactly true - at least not in the human world. If someone who has never had a rabies vax is exposed to rabies, they will receive rabies immunoglobulin first to provide passive immunity which will begin to work immediately, then they will receive the vaccine series to provide active immunity. Without receiving the immunoglobulin after exposure, the body probably would not respond quick enough to build up the antibodies to the rabies vaccine to be considered effective.|
by Jenni78 on 16 February 2012 - 00:42
|I know nothing of the OP so these are general statements on just a couple of the more recent posts, not defending or attacking anything to do with this particular circumstance. I just see some of these statements over and over and they're just incorrect, from a biological standpoint. |
You are all aware that housing females in close proximity synchronizes their cycles, right? Meaning...no one plans litters within weeks of each other (no one in their right mind, anyway), rather, it just happens because their cycles synch that way. I wouldn't want to breed more than one at a time, but if it was that or wait another 6mos. on a bitch who was nearing middle age, I'm going to err on the side of the bitch's health every time.
A canine uterus doesn't "rest". It ages regardless of whether the bitch is bred or not, as progesterone is the aging factor, so imo, better to breed a female often and young, then retire her than "rest" her while her uterus continues to age and try to breed her when she's older, possibly increasing risks of complications, all because it "looks" better for your image portrayed to those who are really too ignorant to understand why their preconceived notions bear no merit.
by joanro on 16 February 2012 - 01:03
|Well, personally, image portrayed has nothing to do with what I practice. As far as aging goes, I bet that more than the uterus ages, regardless of pregnancy;) Anyway, go for all the breedings back to back with your animals your heart desires, and I'll continue with my program.|
by Jenni78 on 16 February 2012 - 01:23
by joanro on 16 February 2012 - 01:31
|Just found this thread from 30 March 2011 on PDB, Breeding Frequency for Female Dogs. Every one has an opinion, seems like.|
by mfh27 on 16 February 2012 - 03:25
|Just addressing the whole "rabies IgG is given before the rabies vaccine" statement. This is not exactly true - at least not in the human world. Actually, they are given at the same time.|
by joanro on 16 February 2012 - 04:13
|By the way, Recuperation benefits the entire body.|