German Shepherd Dog > ____NUT-PROOF FENCING?_____ (16 replies)
by thunderingnights on 02 February 2012 - 02:55
|We have 60 acres and our dogs have always been inside/outsiders. When outside, they've just run loose (we live a long way from the road and they just hang out around the house). |
But we're getting into this working dog thing more and more so naturally, it's time to start looking into fencing. Any...uh...suggestions?
Chain link is horrid, in my experience. It's never taken our dogs long to rip through it like a wet sack and I could imagine digging under it being pretty easy when the ground's not rubber or concrete. We don't have money for the staunch, expensive stuff. I was thinking a heavy gaged hog wire of sorts. But I haven't seen any over 5 feet available and that would be like hop scotch for a lot of these dogs.
What do you guys use?
by CMills on 02 February 2012 - 03:02
|We live on 18 acres, 3 acres fully fenced with standard 4ft chain link. Our dogs love being "at home" and so have no desire to go over or through the fence, and it's been here for over 11 years, still strong/sturdy, and we've had numerous dogs over the years inside it. Only dog that ever jumped it was an adult we didn't raise here, so he didn't consider this his home for awhile.|
by Chaz Reinhold on 02 February 2012 - 03:12
|Brick, stacked 8' with mortar.|
by thunderingnights on 02 February 2012 - 03:34
Yeah, but the point is we are having more and more training done here with more and more dogs that aren't familiar with the place, or having a reason to stay put.
Lol! I'd rather use a mote of fire and lava, personally... But we don't have the money for either. It's a large area. =P
by anton on 02 February 2012 - 08:54
you might want to consider only fencing off a training field and kennel area for visiting dogs. it will be much cheaper than fencing off the entire property, the dogs will be secure in kennels and since its a lot less fencing, you can go with a stronger guage fencing that the dogs can't break.
by Two Moons on 02 February 2012 - 08:58
|learn how to use hotwires with any fence you desire.|
by Beardog on 02 February 2012 - 12:08
|Welded wire panels for horses are tall.|
by Beardog on 02 February 2012 - 12:10
|USe plastic posts and you can put a charger on it to keep them back. Plastic post carry a 400 year guarantee, wooden ones only last about 8 years|
by thunderingnights on 06 February 2012 - 00:58
|Thanks for the comments.|
I'm not looking to fence in the entire property. We have kennels with 12 foot runs right now. I just feel it isn't enough. I hate the thought of them cramped up like that while I'm not home when they could have an acre or two fenced in for the dogs who are familiar with each other to run and play. This goes for my personal dogs too. They wouldn't leave the house...unless they see a deer...or a rabbit...which we have a lot of.
We also have horses. And while we have them trained to behave themselves while we are around, when we are not, they have the tendency to sneak and bolt after them. And it wouldn't hurt the horses' feelings if they managed to stomp one of them to death, lol. No sleep would be lost on their part.
And Beardog, welded wire horse pannels would be perfect...but they're expensive as all get out. At least around here.
Something like this would be great too (maybe with only 2 or 3 boards though, for expeses sake...or those plastic posts you were talking about, beardog). It'd just need to be taller...hmm...
by alboe2009 on 06 February 2012 - 05:47
|Cattle or livestock fencing at Tractor Supply/Southern States. 16'X54" @ $73.00 Not sure where you live but for that last picture; I would go directly to a Mill and explain your needs. Buying in bulk will give you a cheaper price. If you're a DIYer I would look for barns that are being torn down or already falling down. Collect all that lumber and mill yourself to the dimensions for that fence. A good place to start looking is on CL under "Materials"|
by Sunsilver on 06 February 2012 - 17:06
|Thunder, here's the solution to your horse-chasing dogs! |
I run a boarding kennel. Everything is commercial grade chainlink. I recently had a 4000 sq. ft. area put in so large dogs can stretch their legs. It's 6 ft. high with angle brackets and wire on top to foil jumpers, which adds another foot of height. The wire is also buried a foot in the ground. I haven't had it long enough to really test it on the escape artists, but from what I've read on this board, no matter what sort of fencing you put in, or how much you pay, eventually there will be a dog that will find a way out, if it's really determined.
My suggestion to you would be to put up what you think might work, but is still affordable. I have yet to have a dog rip its way through chainlink, except where it was already damaged by age or lack of maintenance. I have had a couple of jumpers go over a 6' run. One wound up on the roof, then jumped to the ground from there. The other just hopscotched from run to run until it was in the one nearest the kennel door!
The area I fenced off cost around $8,600 Canadian.
And right now, you could probably get up a good game of hockey on it, but it's bloody useless for turning out dogs, unless THEY know how to skate!
by Wanda on 06 February 2012 - 23:58
|What a pic!|
by vandykan on 07 February 2012 - 00:53
|I have 5 ft fencing with horse fencer on top. my girl was going over 3ft gates at 8 weeks old. It didn't take her long to go over top 5ft so we strung wire. she was eyeballing that wire as we were putting it up and she knew she wasn't going to like it. After getting zapped once was about all it took to take a healthy respect for the wire.|
by destiny4u on 07 February 2012 - 00:54
|i have met a few horses like that in the pic i didnt think they were that uncommon seems to be one in every field in the horse boarding stable|
pretty scary for the dogs lol
by KYLE on 07 February 2012 - 21:00
|We went with the post and rail fencing, with fence guard mesh. Like in the pic above. Its more attractive then chain link. But not many dogs will chew thru 10 guage galvanized chain link. The thin 14 guage chain link was like candy for a couple of our dogs.|
by skyhorse on 09 February 2012 - 14:49
|When I moved to my farm there was already horse board/plank fencing around the house and down to the barn. Expensive, but I added buried invisible fencing along the fenceline to keep dogs away from horses and away from the board fence. This gives them a secure area to play but does allow neighboring dogs to come inside.|
Since there is already a visible barrier (horse fencing) the invisible electric fence works well to keep my dogs contained. I would not use it by itself or for very high prey dogs.
Then for my stud dog I built a pen using 6' tall 2x4 welded wire backed up w/ electric wire at nose height and cattle panels cut in half length-wise along the bottom of the wire fence to prevent digging. Not the prettiest thing but there are no break outs from the pen. The dog I keep in the pen isn't even trained on the invisible fencing, but he stays in it because the other dogs do and because of the visible barrier (horse fencing) He is always watched when outside his pen.
If I could afford it I'd do the board fencing w/ mesh wire and backup w/ electric.
by thunderingnights on 09 February 2012 - 15:22
|Haha, Sunsilver, that looks QUITE SIMILAR to what our horses think of the dogs. Well...a few. Most of them are too fat to move that fast. I'm sure winters ARE pretty lousy up there. Still I wouldn't mind living in Canada. |
Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
Not sure what gage our chain link is in the runs, but it certainly is candy for my two pups as well. It's because the darn stuff unravels.
I'm going to look around a bit. Never imagined fencing would be such a pain before I actually had need of it.