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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! by jettasmom on 22 January 2012 - 18:27 |
jettasmom by Tihannah on 22 January 2012 - 18:34 |
| Lol, I work with a bunch of chefs, and this is pretty much how they talk to each other in the kitchens. |
by Siantha on 22 January 2012 - 18:36 |
| lol yep people they are amazing. |
Siantha by trixx on 22 January 2012 - 19:01 |
| that is just terrible, who does he think he is to talk like that, i know i would never come back to that trainer that is not very professional. after seening this, i dont see him as one i would ever use. |
trixx by Keith Grossman on 22 January 2012 - 19:04 |
| LMAO! I love that guy! If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. |
Keith Grossman by THayna on 22 January 2012 - 19:19 |
| Steve can have a potty mouth no doubt I would suggest that before you discount or disparage someone you take the time to watch a lot of the other videos of Steve training with same group. or maybe even talk to people who have actually trained with him . Trudy |
by Keith Grossman on 22 January 2012 - 19:32 |
| Absolutely, Trudy. If you're interested in becoming a good helper or in getting the absolute best performance out of your dog that he's capable of giving, Steve is a good bet if you're willing to listen to him. If, on the other hand, you're looking for a candy-coated trainer who'll blow smoke up your ass, you should probably go to PetSmart. |
by trixx on 22 January 2012 - 19:42 |
| well i would not use any one that talked like that and there are alot of good trainers in the USA, i dont live by him so i dont have to worry. i will say i have never seen this behavior out of any other SCH trainer, most are pretty nice. they will flat out tell you what you are doing wrong with out disrespecting you. |
by Sunsilver on 22 January 2012 - 20:32 |
The video has been made private. What I'd like to know is Steve WHO? Back in the '70s and '80s, when I was taking riding lessons from a very strict, tough, ex-military trainer, you got kicked out of his class for swearing. I really don't see the need for it. When you were up on that horse, though, it was his way or the highway, and he got his point across quite well without swearing. |
Sunsilver by Tiago on 22 January 2012 - 20:38 |
| Wow is right. Denise, you trained with Steve long enough to know how he talks at training. This is not a surprise to you. You even laughed along. Everything has to be done in an instant and you know how frustrating it is for him when the dog gets shitty training, because ultimately, he's responsible, and he wants a well trained dog, and doesn't want a dog picking up a bad habit. He will tell you over and over, he does this for the dogs. I've heard SO many people say Schutzhund is not for the light hearted, and that is SO true. Dog trainers are not usually the church talking kind. You weren't. I am not. Steve isn't. So what? What does surprise me here is you being as petty as the person who made this video by posting the link. Steve left this area long ago. Why are you still holding a grudge? Why even bother posting the video? Let people form their opinion of Steve on their own. I thought we were going out to do pictures of your dog last year, but you never responded. I had some things at the time and then asked when would be good for you. Did I hold my grudge? I learned my lesson not to in a VERY hard way I'm still trying to work through. It's OBVIOUS that the person who made this tape is trying to ruin the reputation of a National Level Helper who has helped train MANY newbies from nothing to titled dogs. He has been a helper at the WDA Sieger Show for the past three years and worked all the dogs consistently. The fact that this video is cut just to hear the swearing and not the whole situation, or know the owner and the dog as some are slower to learn, makes it completely obvious it is a vendetta one (or in this case two) won't let go. Steve worked both of my boys and you know it, and I listened to the screaming. We all gave it back to him here and there. I didn't title either boys as one did not have the temperament and I was too chicken to do a forced retrieve on my Baby, as well as even more of a chicken to think of being on a trial field, so both boys became new helper trainers. If I had a dog that was ready to work, I wouldn't hesitate to go back to him. Mason is slow to figure this out, but getting better. He's only a year, so I'm not worried. I hope someday that I get a chance to work him with Steve. Last time Steve was here, I did work a dog for a friend on Steve and I got yelled at right away. Not my dog and I wasn't sure what he wanted. It only took one time though and I caught on and the dog did awesome. You have to have quick responses in this sport. I could absolutely see the difference. If you don't like it, move on, but don't do this crap. It didn't involve you anyways. A.P. |
Tiago by JudyK on 22 January 2012 - 20:53 |
| Apparently this video was edited to show only the negative portions of an otherwise positive training day. Personally, my dogs made tremendous progress under the tutelege of Steve House and I would train again with him in a heartbeat if he was in my area. Judy |
by Sheesh on 22 January 2012 - 21:14 |
| What was lacking from those videos, were all of the after parties, social gatherings, meals, and friendly, fun banter and chatter that those very same people have after every training session, including the person who posted the video on youtube. That was clearly a pathetic attempt to bring negative publicity to someone. It is very sad that the person who posted that video actually achieved a lot of progress and success under Steve House and then decided that she would rather attempt to badmouth him. Sad indeed. While Steve's personality is not for everyone, (whose is?) Anyone who has or does train with him knows beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he gives 100% of himself for every person and every dog EVERY time,, no matter if you are headed for the nationals or a local club trial for a BH. If the handlers give that much effort, they WILL be successful. I love his passion and dedication to each dog and handler team. I love that he feels our nervousness when we trial and is our biggest cheerleader on the sideline. I love that he is always just a phone call away whenever one of his people has a question or concern. I don't know really what the reason or motivation is for this honestly. I hope she (or they) get the help that is needed. Theresa |
Sheesh by yellowrose of Texas on 22 January 2012 - 21:28 |
| How come it says Private on the video..I did click on it...but cannot even get it started???? I cannot see video but I can testify great trainers all over the USA that I personally have stood by and been around do talk a lot of the same "lingo " some of us do not use.. I can name 4 right off the bat SO this is not against whoever Steve in the video is but It can be said, the 4 I know, are top and terrific dog and K9 trainers.. I am sure there are many more... One I know personally has always said like Keith posted..I have no time for people who are not serious and if they are not ready to get it done, and cannot take the heat, get out of the kitchen......and he was winner of USA National championships several times...so even though I cringe, it takes me putting a plug in my ears and keep the dog training in the main slot and not the Talk> yr |
yellowrose of Texas by cphudson on 22 January 2012 - 21:44 |
| I couldn't see the video. But can't imagine it's any worst than the average talk during trainers with a lot of top trainers. Did see this video of Steve House though - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1SIscRjV0 He looks to be a good helper / trainer & people would be lucky to work with him. I wish we had more quality helpers like this in my area. |
cphudson by Keith Grossman on 22 January 2012 - 22:10 |
| Training issues are almost always a problem with the owner/handler rather than the dog. Steve recognizes this so while he may seem a little harsh at times, I have never known him to be unfair to any dog. On the other hand, I've known trainers who were as polite as could be to the people with whom they train but are downright abusive to the dogs themselves. As in all things, you decide which you'd prefer. |
by Betty on 22 January 2012 - 22:57 |
| I would rather have the trainer talk to me like that to my face rather then be all sweetness and light and then do a number behind me on my back. I don't know Steve but I think it's safe to say what you see if what you get and I respect that. And I would think that his personality would be apparent the first training session and if his style is not a mesh with yours you should move on. |
by JRANSOM on 22 January 2012 - 23:12 |
He was one of the helpers at NASS 2011 in VA. |
JRANSOM by GSDguy08 on 22 January 2012 - 23:17 |
| Good trainer, helper, or whatever there is no reason to talk like that. |
GSDguy08 by Dawgone on 22 January 2012 - 23:48 |
| I can only hope the video is private because I called the videographer and informed her I did not authorize her to edit and post any video of me on any public website. Those videos were for training and private club viewing only and I will not be a part of anyone's vendetta. For those of you who saw the video, I am the handler with a black and tan working line dog, and I'll say it, Steve was in my ass because instead of asking questions and getting BIT, he needed me to continue what I was doing WITHOUT question. I have NO PROBLEM with Steve's training methods. I do have the OPTION of training with other helpers who compete on the National and World level, but you know what, I don't have to because I have the best trainer for ME and MY DOGS and I train 3 dogs EVERY training weekend. Not for the faint of heart. What the video doesn't show either is the videographers training sessions. She was advised to train with Steve, because if "anyone could train you and your dog, it's Steve". I witnessed many training sessions where Steve literally held his mouth shut instead of saying what was on the tip of his tongue. Funny how vindictive she is now that her dog has his BH (congrats to both of you, btw), due to training with Steve House. HHHMMM From 8 weeks to first attempt at SchH1 all 3 phases under Steve's mentorship and guidance...my show bitch, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGZW-aeP02I Julie |
Dawgone by northwoodsGSD on 22 January 2012 - 23:57 |
| While I don't mind a trainer or helper being hard on me or even yelling at me, if/when needed. There is absolutley no reason to use vulgar language. There are plenty of ways to get a point across strongly w/o profanity. I do not care how "GREAT" anyone is. I never will/would tolerate anyone talking to me like that. Total lack of respect for anyone other than himself. |
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