German Shepherd Dog > So your dog is not perfect? (92 replies)
by hexe on 17 January 2012 - 18:08
|Hans, if you'd posted this link with a title that wasn't a slap in the face to anyone who'd ever received a dog with one or more serious structural issues and had to make heartbreaking decisions as a result, my view of your post would have been different. If you'd confined your comments to an appreciation of how well the young lady in the video was doing in teaching the dog the skills he needs in his career as her service dog, my view of the post would be different. |
But you didn't. Your post title mocks all those who purchased their dream puppy and then learned that the dog was destined to live it's life in unrelenting pain unless one of two options was chosen: end the dog's life (which is what would happen in most cases if the dog was returned to the breeder), or commit to the expenditure of thousands of dollars for medical intervention to address the problem. You insinuated that the 'disappointment' one might feel over the fact that a dog's ears were weak was in the same league as that experienced by someone whose dream dog came with serious physical defects, exhorting the latter to 'look to this video' when their dog's misfortunes made them sad.
Perhaps all of that was unintentional, and you are guilty only of choosing your words unthinkingly. Sadly, I believe your dexterity with English is stellar enough that you knew *exactly* what knives would be turned in what wounds. THAT disappoints me...but I expect that of our species, so no surprises there for me.
WRT to anonymity, I have nothing to sell, I don't breed or broker dogs, and I don't run any kind of business that would make it necessary or beneficial for me to hang my government name out in cyberspace for all and sundry to know. When there is a specific need for someone to know the specifics, that info is provided to them privately, and there are many here who do know it. My user name is the same for virtually every forum or venue I belong to, be it a site for dog owners, cell phone owners, Nissan Frontier truck owners, and so forth--so IMO, I'm far from anonymous just because I chose not to publicly use my government name.
by destiny4u on 17 January 2012 - 18:28
|so had crissy given her dog back to the breeder she would never have been able to live with herself because it would have been put to sleep. So she didnt really have a choice? she cant just replace her dog knowing it will be happy and safe some place else in her eyes she only had one choice she was trapped.|
by Red Sable on 17 January 2012 - 19:19
|Hexe, great posts- as usual.|
by judron55 on 17 January 2012 - 19:27
Hexe...you know how I feel about you...honest and forthcoming as usual...that's why I love you...Hope all is well with you and yours:-)
by mentayflor on 17 January 2012 - 19:27
by LadyFrost on 17 January 2012 - 19:56
|LOOOOOL....I love this place....the essence does not change....just targets and targetees.......but every time i come back and read it feels just the same as it did the first time...little insane, little crazy, helpful, funny, entertaining and familiar...|
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by Abby Normal on 17 January 2012 - 20:38
|Spot on Hexe|
by Ace952 on 17 January 2012 - 22:11
by Ace952 on 17 January 2012 - 22:21
|i made the entry with paragraphs but for some reason doing this on my phone it doesnt recognize it. Mods please break into paragraphs as im in a all day meeting.|
by Carlin on 17 January 2012 - 22:43
|Great...more breeder on breeder hate crime. I would think that if anyone would understand the catch 22's a dog breeder may run into, it would be another dog breeder. I'm not picking a side, just amazed at all the love around here lately for Hans and Jenni :-) . Wonder who the next victim shall be...|
by Slamdunc on 17 January 2012 - 22:45
by Slamdunc on 17 January 2012 - 22:47
Have you read the "hips" thread? Do you even understand why people are upset with Hans? Please don't bring Jenni into this it has nothing to do with her. If need be I can give you a couple of clues or draw you a map.
by Carlin on 17 January 2012 - 23:05
|@slam -yes, I understand completely, and have read the thread. Did you read where I wrote "not picking a side" ? That means, whether or not I agree or disagree, it is.not relevant to the point. The point is simply that for a group of people who face similar challenges, among whom I do not believe there is one beyond reproach, they are awful quick to pull the trigger on someone. A lot of this stuff goes beyond what is necessary. Advice is welcome always, but kindly refrain from the bullying; it's really not becoming, and probably isn't going ti work out for you. Jenni's a big girl, she can take care of herself.|
by Slamdunc on 17 January 2012 - 23:13
|I wasn't bullying anyone, there is nothing to work out for me. Sometimes people need to take sides and do what they think is right. Bad things happen when good people stand by and watch.|
by Jenni78 on 17 January 2012 - 23:38
|Sure I can take care of myself, but why should I get dragged into a thread that has nothing to do with me just to do so?|
by Carlin on 17 January 2012 - 23:40
|@ slam...I don't disagree with that. I am glad she had recourse and things worked out for her. It looks totally asinine when individuals are casually vilified here. In some cases, their livelihoods lye in the balance. From what little I have gleaned thus far, Hans provides wealth of information here, while other members, whose relative knowledge and experience fills a thimble, makes a.part time job out if lighting up the forum with mud slinging.|
by Carlin on 17 January 2012 - 23:42
|Jenni- couldn't help that you came to mind in the realm of personal vendetta's.|
by aaykay on 18 January 2012 - 01:28
|@ slam...I don't disagree with that. I am glad she had recourse and things worked out for her. It looks totally asinine when individuals are casually vilified here. In some cases, their livelihoods lye in the balance.|
From what little I have gleaned thus far, Hans provides wealth of information here, while other members, whose relative knowledge and experience fills a thimble, makes a.part time job out if lighting up the forum with mud slinging.
Agree, totally. The serial bullies in particular, just irritate me no end. As stated above, for some of them, the anonymity offered by the internet, allows them to indulge in obnoxious behavior, without any consequences.
by aaykay on 18 January 2012 - 01:35
|Sometimes people need to take sides and do what they think is right. Bad things happen when good people stand by and watch. |
Agreed. Now what has happened is in the past, as far as I am concerned, and over and done with. Time to move onto other things ?
Why not give the benefit of the doubt and simply take the current thread at face value ?
by Ace952 on 18 January 2012 - 02:01
You bring up a good point. You mention that with some breeders, "...their livelihoods lye in the balance..." Such a true comment. This also means that that person or persons should work hard to maintain that their image and reputation stay in tact. How does one accomplish that? By making sure that the business they run has a positive image. 1st rule of customer service...the customer is always right. Listen, show empathy and find a solution. Do your best to avoid bad press. Don't make decisions which could effect your livelihood.
As you said Carlin, "...from what little I have gleaned thus far..." You admit to not being around long enough to see a lot of things. That same thimble that you mention seems to be the same cup that you hold in your hand. From your POV things seem harsh and I can certainly see that. Sometimes they are and sometimes they are not. There are many who have seen more than you have. Sometimes you have to take time out to research and come up with your own conclusion.
Yes, Hans does provide a wealth of information but so do many others on this forum and others. There are many who have a lot more knoledge than Hans that don't have the black cloud above them. Just because someone has a lot of knowledge does it mean they really know a lot or you should dismiss actions that may have happened? As it is always said on here, do your homework and as long as your happy with your decision then great.