German Shepherd Dog > Yoo Whoo, ACE How is that fanstastic girl of yours? (27 replies)
Yoo Whoo, ACE How is that fanstastic girl of yours?
by hunger4justice on 15 January 2012 - 16:16
|We want an update of that lovely puppy of yours. How is she doing? Where are some pictures??? Please?|
by Ace952 on 15 January 2012 - 20:11
She is doing good. Can't get her to bark for the rag but I'm not bothered by it. She will bark in her crate though...sometimes for a hour. She likes to play a lot and I have the hardest time petting her as she likes to full mouth grips on my hand or arm. Getting a little tired of that now. I have been sick for the past 3 weeks so we haven't done much and hope to get back to regular training in another week. I am trying to find out what negatives she has.
I'll try to shoot a clip of her today.
here is a clip of her taken right before Christmas at Sch training.
Here is a video of her Brother Titan that I got from her breeder.
by Chaz Reinhold on 15 January 2012 - 20:33
|Back-tie her or you post her up. When she gets frustrated she will let out some noise. Mark with a bite.|
by Chaz Reinhold on 15 January 2012 - 20:37
|BTW, she sucks! Get rid of her now and save your time. I know someone looking for a lawn ornament. Would be the perfect fit. I'll tale care of all the arrangements. You'll be safe. It will be on my territory.|
by joanro on 15 January 2012 - 21:26
|She looks super!!!|
by CMills on 16 January 2012 - 03:45
|Wow, NICE girl! also love her brother.|
by yellowrose of Texas on 16 January 2012 - 04:42
Is that you in the video or are you taking the video???
by Ace952 on 16 January 2012 - 16:15
|Lol@Chaz! YR - No I'm not in the video. I believe that I did shoot the video or I was standing next to the person that did.|
by jeysalim on 17 January 2012 - 00:33
|Nice pups, Ace. Very good potential. What's your plan for tixi and titan?|
by Ace952 on 17 January 2012 - 03:40
|Thanks Jeysalim. Plans so far are Sch and then see what happens after that. I think as she grows and matrues and I see how she is , then I can determine her path I got a female from this litter so that if I was interested in breeding her one day, I would be able to and not worry about bottleneck. I can go in a number of directions but that is a long time away and see how she develops first. I got with a great trainer so I am interested in learning with her and not making the same mistakes as I did with my 1st dog..|
As for her brother Titan, I believe that they will title and breed him for sure. Great pedigree and I am sure they will have a number of options to go when it gets that time.
by yellowrose of Texas on 17 January 2012 - 05:24
Darn ya Ace: I wanted to see what you looked like..
Are you in any of the videos?
I only looked at the first few minutes as it take 1 hour to even get to half way on dial up...sob
by hunger4justice on 17 January 2012 - 15:43
|I thought they got rid of my thread cause it was personal...just seeing the answers now.|
Ace, she has those amazing super grips that Leefdaalhof brings to the table. Don't worry about her barking, mine is almost 2 and they have a hell of a time getting a real bark out of him. He has a hell of one when he is in defense but that is not too often and too young to put him there in training before now. They have great nerves. I just love her AND her brother. Look at how he comes out and as I said, the drive and the grip...a testement to the great bloodlines. I would venture to say you have one of the most promising dogs in the United States today..honestly.
Hope you feel better and...Next time don't wait so long!
by hunger4justice on 17 January 2012 - 17:13
|Oh, one thing that seems to be in the lines, they will wait an hour hanging on the sleeve/tug etc and choking them off, lifting collar I know did not work on my dog or my dogs father who was also a SchH 3 and cert police K9...I found the positive method of teaching the out, like Balabanov used, worked like a charm and the Sheriff that had the father of my dog said the same thing. They had to do the out differently because she said he would die before giving up the sleeve but when using the positive method, I got a very reliable quick out. I think once we did have a second line and corrected into the sleeve but that was only once. Don't know if your dog will be the same but all the Tom progeny seem to have that trait and you have that x2!|
by LadyFrost on 17 January 2012 - 20:12
|oh wow....Ace, new woman in your life....and looks like a huge improvement...LOOOOL..|
are the other two boys still with you?...how are they getting along? is she the boss of the male pack now?..LOL
she is adorable...and i like her personality....LOL
by Ace952 on 31 January 2012 - 09:03
|I forgot to come back to answer these. I have been sick for a month and now I'm finally back to being myself. I haven't been training with her due to it but we shall slowly get back into our mini sessions at home during the week and back to Sch training on the weekends.|
Hunger - I had a friend watch her for a few days while I was out of town for work and she said that she barks for prey items and even grabbed a mal pup by the neck, put it on the ground and humped it...lol. I will say that I really do like her grips as I see the genetics. I am grateful as she has stopped biting me as much as I believe her adult teeth are starting to come in. She will occasionally grab my hand to chew on it which I let go until it becomes a pain.
My main thing now is the nerve of a dog. I never really thought much about it until the last 2-3 months. Nerve means more to me than anything else. I know personally, any dog in the future that I have, nerve is the 1st thing I look at. I just feel it makes things a lot easier. As far as Tixi's nerve's they are good so far. Strangest thing is that she doesn't like the tile in my bathroom. I have tile allon the 1st floor of my house but for some odd reason the tile in my bathroom is something that she avoids. Go figure. Other than that I think she will be somewhat handler sensitive as it didn't take long to teach the word "no" and she understands it and I don't have to yell it. Other than those 2 things she is good. She runs my 18 month old czech male. One thing I really like is that she settles down in the house. I can flirt her in my backyard for 10 minutes and let her run around in the house but then she knows to settle down in the house once I stop playing or my other dog is in his crate. She will just plop down on the floor.
I am keeping tabs on her brother as I like what I see in the videos and it will be interesting to see how he grows and matures and what things they have in common and what things they don't.
Thanks for the kind words. I got her as her mom so far has been the best producer out of that B litter and is the most heavily titled (ZVV3 and other titles) out of her siblings who are no sloutches in their own right. I felt that going with a pup out of Bona with Charik as the father I couldn't pass it up genetics wise. I almost went with a pup out of Bona brother, Basko but felt that I would get more bang for my buck by going with a female from that litter than the male plus Bona has proved herself breeding wise with her offspring. I figure when it comes the day to breed her, I have limitless options in which to proceed genetics wise which is what I wanted as well. At the end of the day it is all a crapshoot though and we will see how she does. I have a great Sch trainer and a good mentor who I speak with often via phone to help me with things to bring out what I can from the pup. I talk to the breeder often on facebook and keep them updated all the time.
And your right, when I flirt her or use a rag, she won't want to let go...lol. I am usuing Michael Ellis videos to help but I do have Ivan's videos on order as well. I will look into his method.
LadyFrost - Yeah I like her as she doesn't talk back like most of the women I have had around. :) And you are right, she does run this house.
by hunger4justice on 31 January 2012 - 14:57
|I am also interested in how she is socially with other people. I am still trying to figure this out in my Leefdaalhof dog. He was never a bit shy about strangers, but he sure seemed to like to get really close and BAM..bite. (of course I stopped him, he never actually got hold of anyone) At first I thought it was just puppy excitement , then wondered is it nerves, but he is not afraid, no hackles, no growling. Also if he sees something new, he bites it first, but after he knows exactly what it is (say he sees a traffic cone for the first time...no sniffing, exploring, he bites it) he STILL keeps biting and tries to take it home. I think he enjoys biting and he is a waiter....if someone comes near our fence, he stalks them and waits silently. If they come to the gate, he goes very close silently and if they lean in he is IN THEIR FACE. One guy said "HOLY Sh&#! I felt his breath on my face!" I said that is why those giant red lettered signs say KEEP OUT and BEWARE OF DOG. (He was outside the gate my dog was inside) He said since the dog was being so quiet he didn't think he'd bite. Of course with obedience, he just sits quietly next to me if I talk to someone but they often then assume he would never bite them since he is being so calm and quiet..wrong! I have to convince them that they should not and cannot pat him and even if I made him allow it, he won't like it.|
So I am so curious as to what social development you see in your girl. My dog is also a very serious dog all the time, but kind and gentle to me.
Regarding the tile, there is an interesting lecture by that Animal Neurobiologist Temple Grandin (she is the autistic one that a movie was made about) saying that when dogs are hit by a car, for example, they might become fearful or concerned about the spot of pavement where they were hit and not the car. So maybe just that part of the tile where your pup maybe slipped or something. Here is a lecture of hers that explains how animals think..sound is bad first few seconds:
Please keep us updated about her social behavior with people..I am curious.
by Red Sable on 31 January 2012 - 18:28
I could only watch a little due also to lovely dial up, but I loved what I saw!
by Felloffher on 31 January 2012 - 19:05
|My main thing now is the nerve of a dog. I never really thought much about it until the last 2-3 months. Nerve means more to me than anything else. I know personally, any dog in the future that I have, nerve is the 1st thing I look at. I just feel it makes things a lot easier. As far as Tixi's nerve's they are good so far. Strangest thing is that she doesn't like the tile in my bathroom. I have tile allon the 1st floor of my house but for some odd reason the tile in my bathroom is something that she avoids. Go figure. |
Promising pup, I like her. I agree strong nerve is the most important attribute a dog should posses and it goes beyond handling pressure in drive or how much fight a dog brings. I like to evaluate a dogs confidence and overall attitude when faced with new environmental challenges (dark building, strange surfaces, crowds). If a dog can't handle these situations after a fair adjustment period I wash them. The issue you're having with the tile floor in the bathroom isn't a red flag, but I would work to get her over it.
by GSDPACK on 31 January 2012 - 20:29
|Ace, she is out of Bona ze Svobodneho Dvora right?|
Hell the whole B litter is a success.
The C Litter in not bad either but they are young (2 years) most females titled by now and some as far as IPO3? I think. The breeder seems to know what he is doing...
Good luck with her
PS Take a raw chicken wing toss it in the bathroom and see what she does!
by Ace952 on 01 February 2012 - 02:38
|Hunger - With regards to her social skills, she is a social butterfly. She runs up to meet everyone and jumps on them to be petted and all. I got her at 10 weeks old and I work 8 hours a day. I kept her in my crate in my car while I was at work. I let eveyone who wanted to at work come meet her , pet her, etc. I took her for walks to help crate train and hit the park and other places (shopping centers, etc) on my lunch break to get her use to different places and people. Now she stays home and is doing ok. I will go back to doing more socialization but just on the weekends and more just going different places and seeing new things.|
I like how your dog is in your yard. I am not a fan of dogs that bark uncontrollably behind a fence even when they hear something but can't see. I like a dog that waits till you get close enough for them to really make their presence felt. I personally see it as a sign of good nerves but I maybe wrong, I'll let someone tell me if I am right or not. I don't like for a dog to just constanly bark and make a big fuss especially when it knows it can't get to the person on the other side.
I will say I expect excellent social skills as I hate washing dogs and I drop mine off at PetSmart for a bath every 3-4 months. I haven't done PetSmart with her yet but I don't think she will have a problem.
Felloffher - Yeah that nerve I see is the biggest thing. It makes me wonder when a breeder had a litter of say 7 pups, how many out of those 7 REALLY have strong/rock solid nerves. Out of 7, maybe 2? 3? It really makes you wonder. To make sure that you are breeding the best dogs out of a litter I agree that you have to wash out the ones that don't have the solid nerve. It does make me wonder how many of those get sold and people who end up buying them breed them later as they see high prey and it overmasks the lack of nerve.
As far as the tile issue in the bathroom in my bedroom.......
I was going to play tug in my room and lead it into the bathroom while she was on the bite. I am thinking that while playing tug she wouldn't be thinking about the tile. I will try that tomorrow. Right now I am in my room and I put her food bowl (thanks GSDPack) in the bathroom. I have been here 15 minutes and she has gone in there once to take a few bites but ran out when I got up praising her and was going to pet her. So now I will just let her eat and not say anything. She is whining a lot and taking a few steps in but turns around. Tail is wagging from side to side or is down with the tip curled up. Never between her legs. Looks like this is the new routine to eat for awhile until she gets over it. This is so weird to me as I said, the whole downstairs of my house is tile and there is no problem, just osmething with the bathroom tile. When I got her home the first night she went up and down the stairs first time no hesitation. Well after 20 minutes she went and ate. Hesitant but hunger wins out...lol This time I shut up and let her eat.