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Since it's been mentioned- can anyone define what a "World Class Dog" is? by workingdogz on 10 January 2012 - 17:18 |
| Would love to know what this means. And before anyone gets their panties in a wad, I am not referring to ANYONE'S dog in particular, (this is a special note for those that cannot comprehend). We discussed this at training the other day, and no one could define it. What would make a dog "World Class"? I presume it's meant that the dog would be able to compete with other "champions" in some field? IE VA dogs, WUSV winner etc? I see it used in ads from time to time, and surprisingly, it's been used on ads for litters from untitled parent(s). Again, don't read more into this than there is, I am NOT referencing anyone personal dog here. So am curious? What makes a dog/pup "World Class"? Charlie Brown |
by Ninja181 on 10 January 2012 - 17:26 |
| Ranking among the foremost in the world; of an international standard of excellence; of the highest order: Linus (as in Charlie Brown) |
Ninja181 by workingdogz on 10 January 2012 - 17:32 |
| Ok, I get that part, but? from untitled/unproven dogs? How can for example an 8 week old puppy be "World Class"? Maybe I just don't get it. Oh well.  |
by Keith Grossman on 10 January 2012 - 17:35 |
I think it means you can take it pretty much anywhere in the world and people can look at it and say, "yep, that's a dog alright!"  |
Keith Grossman by beetree on 10 January 2012 - 17:36 |
| I think it is a dog who has proven himself a winner in multiple venues, complete with accurate pedigree documentation. ~Lucy .jpeg) |
beetree by remione1 on 10 January 2012 - 17:54 |
| Thank you for making this I was curious myself what makes "a world class dog" & if your dog has never been evaluated at a national level or higher how can you consider it a "world class dog"? maybe a "my club class dog" or "city class dog" or "my helper class dog" ????? My opinion is it can compete & hold it's own, placing in the top (50?) CONSISTANTLY against the top dogs in the world, wusv, nationals, ect. just my opinion. Curious what others is..... |
remione1 by brynjulf on 10 January 2012 - 17:57 |
| I agree with Ninja, Bee and Keith :) I think World Class is similar to the word "Master Trainer" It means whatever you want it to . ( sorry Master Trainer is a HUGE pet peeve of mine.) It might actually mean something in other parts of the world but it Canada it is a bull cocky title. We have NO offical registering body for trainers here. Yes we have lots of organizations you can belong to but I could make my own up too :) (rant over) |
by Red Sable on 10 January 2012 - 17:57 |
| How can for example an 8 week old puppy be "World Class"? It can't. :) Pups are a crap shoot, temperament wise, and health wise it seems. Bee is right IMO, the dog must have PROVEN itself, complete with documentation. I think many of us here have progeny from such dogs, but it does not make our dogs such, until they themselves have been proven. |
Red Sable by remione1 on 10 January 2012 - 18:01 |
| Copied & reposted just so it can be read again ;) "I think many of us here have progeny from such dogs, but it does not make our dogs such, until they themselves have been proven." |
by pistolsgsd on 10 January 2012 - 18:23 |
| My definition would be of the highest standards (dogs) pups being produced from the best ranked dogs in the world, they themselves have not yet been defined as such but perhaps their parents have been rated amungst the best or been bred from world champions. Most times I see the term world class I am expecting to see top notch lines from imported pink papered dogs. Lets face it, the rest of the world has got it down to an art producing top notch high quality dogs. As far as being titled, they can be titled in the states so that does not define "world class" that would be state class, correct? I am going to set aside my thoughts on titled dogs. Some people are importing dogs for their programs but have not titled them, does that make the dogs any less breed worthy or more just to say it has a title? I was reading leerburg site (for example) and others on their thoughts of US titled dogs....some claiming the standards are not set as high as they are in other countries for world shows. But there are so many other clubs and shows AKC UKC where dogs are competeing in sports , conformation, doing therapy work or being bred for a purpose outside of World Shows but came from Pink Papered dogs and have the "lines" of world class dogs, not necessarily being a world class dog itself. There is a fantastic breeder not far from me that advertises all her dogs as "World Class" but they are bred and titled right here in the states. Their ancestry is solid West german Show lines with very high rating and several titles. Just my thought....not an opinion, I have yet to develop one of those yet LOL |
pistolsgsd by charity on 10 January 2012 - 18:28 |
| yes remione, I agree.....the words 'World Class' are overused and misleading. If a person is selling puppies, the best they can say is that "my puppies come from World Class parents". And that would mean the parents have competed and placed high on a National or even World level. JMHO Snoopy Brynjulf, Master Trainer is a term used here in the States by the NAPWDA organization. Some of these so called Master Trainers are truly that....others, not so much. They must go through training and Apprenticeships for a few years. Some are devoted to doing the best they can others use it as a means to an end. I'm not a big fan. |
by GSDPACK on 10 January 2012 - 18:37 |
| OK, this was explained to me by a breeder who trailed and showed dog in Germany... It is an adult dog who has KKL, repeated titles that have been obtained many times over on many different fields by different judges who repeatedly agreed on similar scores. A dog that has been entered in a show and again obtained SG rating, better V or VA rating and has proven her/himself on consistent basis. "World class dog" comes with competing on higher level (not necessarily in WUSV) and ranking really good in national level show... Ok now this is how I understand it from the description it was given to me.. Please correct me if I am wrong. This girl could be considered pretty darn close to it.. I think Yucci Vikar |
GSDPACK by Red Sable on 10 January 2012 - 18:53 |
| Thanks for the definition Pack. Sounds right. :) |
by Blitzen on 10 January 2012 - 18:58 |
From the Business Dictionary.....world classDefinition
Goods, services, and processes that are ranked by customers and industry-experts to be among the best of the best. This designation denotes standard-setting excellence in terms of design, performance, quality, and customer satisfaction and value when compared with all similar items from anywhere in the world.
Looks to me like a world class dog breeder would need to be so designated by breed experts and buyers; it's not a self-bestowed honor. The designation of world class is earned so IMO it would be appropriate to ask any breeder who touts him or herself as a world class breeder to show proof that their dogs excel in performance, conformation, health,value, and so on and to back up that claim with evidence offered by satisfied buyers and recognized breed experts. The world class breeder would have to produce dogs good enough to be considered of a standard setting excellence when compared to similar dogs bred anywhere in the world. Not many come to mind who would meet that definition. Maybe Kirchental for SL's, don't know WL's well enough to offer a guess. It would be a very limited field. |
Blitzen by remione1 on 10 January 2012 - 19:09 |
| First 2 that come to mind. Both CONSISTANTLY produce quility dogs that achieve high levels for generations. IMO Haus Pixner http://www.haus-pixner.de/ Weinbergblick http://www.vom-weinbergblick.com/ |
by Rik on 10 January 2012 - 19:18 |
| I consider this dog world class http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=450116 |
by hunger4justice on 10 January 2012 - 19:24 |
| I agree with pistolgsd and GSDPACK and yes, Yucci and Javir would certainly qualify in my book. (I am not leaving any one out intentionally) A pup from such breedings would be world class to me (because we buy, many of us, puppies-not adults, with the most potential they can have) and hope from early testing and observation that the genetics are there. The rest is up to us. There has to be also, to me, physical soundness, mental stability, balanced drives, power and speed and I also look for proven courage in the parents, and an instinct to read people and situations, especially in real life scenarios off the training field (in the parents). I realize some people do not include the latter. It matters not who owns the dog, a hobo in the gutter or the king of England, the dog is the same. The bloodlines are the same. |
hunger4justice by Nadeem6 on 10 January 2012 - 21:01 |
| Imho, a dog that has been to the BSP, competed on the world team or very high at many nationals. A puppies can come from world class dogs and be called a world class breeding. This of course only applies to Schutzhund dogs. If you compete in other arenas then you will have different world or continental championships. And what Keith said. |
Nadeem6 by Jenni78 on 10 January 2012 - 22:34 |
| I think it's merely a descriptive to describe something that as Blitzen's post stated, is ranked as having a very high degree of excellence, as rated by its consumers. Honestly, this first part of her post is very close to what I think of when someone says something is "world class". Goods, services, and processes that are ranked by customers and industry-experts to be among the best of the best. This designation denotes standard-setting excellence in terms of design, performance, quality, and customer satisfaction and value when compared with all similar items from anywhere in the world. I laugh at some of the ads that bear "world class" but though I don't use the term because it doesn't really have a universal meaning, I don't find it as offensive as some. People are entitled to their opinions and if someone says a certain menu item is "world class" while I think it "sucks @$$", I wouldn't worry about it too much because I had never really thought it had a set definition or standard as it pertained to dogs. There are "world class" examples (stated by consumers) of everything from resorts to professional services. I think it's a highly relative term. |
Jenni78 by Rik on 10 January 2012 - 23:17 |
| something such world class restaurant can be determined by consumers. things like "world class speed", "world class boxer" or yes "world class dog" can only be determined through competition among peers. I guess one could make a case for "world class pet" to be determined by consumers. Rik |
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