German Shepherd Dog > First pick in the litter cost $10,000 US dollars (77 replies)

by Shtal on 06 January 2012 - 19:22
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I' am not in a hurry to buy a puppy right now, I will wait for a perfect opportunity.



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by Slamdunc on 06 January 2012 - 20:01
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Shtal,
Didn't you have puppies recently?  What happened to them? 
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by beetree on 06 January 2012 - 23:50
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Didn't Marine Mom pay $15,000 and think it was a great deal? Or was that for two dogs?  I actually would be tickled pink if she made an appearance again, believe it or not!
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by yellowrose of Texas on 07 January 2012 - 00:01
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Yes Beetree but they were grown titled dogs..

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she is on business and will not post here for a while.

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by beetree on 07 January 2012 - 00:08
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Oh, so you keep in touch with her! Tell her beetree says HELLO! 
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by yellowrose of Texas on 07 January 2012 - 00:44
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Yes, Beetree, as she has relatives right here in Texas and we do keep in touch.



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by beetree on 07 January 2012 - 01:41
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Thanks for the update YR, will you be sure to tell her I was thinking only good thoughts about her?
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by Championl on 07 January 2012 - 03:44
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I can't resist but to chime in. The last show I went to a few months ago, there was a newcomer who had purchased two of Bill's pups from two different litters, and she had purchased the most expensive of the litters ($7500 each, is that what he charges for "supreme top show pups"?). I was excited to see what these expensive, pick of the litter pups looked like, having never seen his dogs in shows before. Both pups were nice, but average - and, believe it or not, both dogs placed LAST in their puppy classes. Let's just say, the newbie owner was in a state of shock.
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by Red Sable on 07 January 2012 - 04:20
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"Let's just say, the newbie owner was in a state of shock."

I'll bet.  Another expensive lesson in BS.
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by EchoEcho on 07 January 2012 - 07:29
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Is there are guarantee that this puppy will be show quality? The thing is no one can really look at a puppy at 8 weeks old and know if it will be show quality or worthy of breeding. This is why a puppy at 8 weeks isn't really worth more than about $2K. Just wondering if this "pick of the litter" puppy comes with an guarantees on quality of the dog. Does he hang on to his puppies longer than 8 weeks?
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by La Junta GSD on 07 January 2012 - 07:38
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Check out www.germanshepherdvonarizona.com great dogs and an even greater breeder.
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by leoetta on 07 January 2012 - 08:01
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I am cracking up at this thread for multiple reasons, first of course the $10,000 price tag, but secondly because the photo the OP posted as an example of a puppy he would like is a picture of one of my puppies, here is the pedigree http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=723002  

Not the same pedigree as the dog from Bill, but I can tell you that this particular puppy sold for $2,000, he happened to be the second puppy chosen in the litter but was actually our pick male from the litter, super structure on this puppy and great color and pigment too and the temperament was and is outstanding from what we've heard from the owner. Both parents hips and elbows a-normal, mother is tested CLEAR n/n for Degenerative Myelopathy. Five VAs in the first three generations. Not to mention this puppy came with a 5 year guarantee, and I must say it is a waaayyyyy better guarantee than Bill's one year, you have to give your dog back or you get nothing guarantee (posted on his website) Not too shabby of a puppy and definitely not priced at $10,000!!! 

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by Shtal on 07 January 2012 - 08:50
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leoetta


The reason I used your puppy is because what I seeing from Bill in the past with high$$ price, I wasn't impressed as much, but don't get me wrong.... Bill does have sometimes very interesting pups.


Here is the example a puppy from Bill.





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by macrowe1 on 18 January 2012 - 16:10
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Um, does it shit golden eggs? If it does snatch it, if not I'd run
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by vomtreuenhaus on 18 January 2012 - 16:54
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Bill labels his dogs to his benefit, its ALL about marketing. "Ultimate Supreme" What does that even mean? The dog at 8 weeks is showing potential for what? If the dog was THAT great, he wouldnt be selling it (IMO). "Exceptional Female" from a "super world class litter" Really? There is NO guarantee that the puppy would go VA, Sch3, Kkl1 and have a normal hips/elbows. What makes a dog that is labeled "Ultimate Female" different from a female labeled "Ultimate Supreme"?

I think he is the ONLY breeder/mass producer that has such labels on his dogs.

And quite frankly, he charges 10,000.00$ for puppies, simply because he can and people WILL pay it, I mean come on, for an Ultimate Supreme puppy, why not?! Hah

He really is a genius at marketing, is what it comes down to. (like Science Diet, masters of marketing)



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by Bob McKown on 18 January 2012 - 16:57
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 That kinda cash for a dog that genetically will have a at best lower then average grip and the working ability questionable at best????? P.T. Barnum said it best "There is a sucker born every second"  I,m sure somebody will or has already paid that kinda cash.


  
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by jletcher18 on 19 January 2012 - 00:05
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10,000 will get you a round trip ticket to Germany,  a weeks stay, and still bring home a pup or two.  last time i checked that is.

price and guarentees do NOT make a better dog.  

but what does it really matter,  i can do more with a cheap calculator watch than you can a standard rolex.

john


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by Keith Grossman on 19 January 2012 - 01:11
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"That kinda cash for a dog that genetically will have a at best lower then average grip and the working ability questionable at best?"

I agree that I would never pay this much for a pup but you know this how?
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by Bundishep on 19 January 2012 - 02:19
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If you want a great pick of the litter and decide to go with top working lines,I can save you much money at only 500.00
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by Bob McKown on 19 January 2012 - 12:58
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 I take into account these dogs arent bred for working ability. There claim to fame is conformation and movement which because of the breeding fly,s in the face of the breed originator. One must also take into account there definition of "working" if it is no more then the  points on a field then there fit for the task no more no less.

 A working dog must be bred to a working standard.
 

  
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