German Shepherd Dog > Thoughts on this pup?? (27 replies)
Thoughts on this pup??
by muttlover25 on 15 December 2011 - 16:41
|Any thoughts on this pup?? Never purchased sight unseen before!! What do you think of his attention/grips/structure? My hope for this pup would be protection, obedience and agility.|
Father is Herkules-Von Der Agnesburg
Mother Bara Z Gemera
by gagsd4 on 15 December 2011 - 16:47
|He appears to be a sweet puppy.|
and an adorable roly-poly. Have you already purchased him?
by muttlover25 on 15 December 2011 - 16:51
|No Mary I am really considering him BUT he's not in our country and I've never purchased a dog without meeting him and spending time with him. It freaks me out without even petting him! I like his pedigree I also like the video not sure if he has a nature full mouth bite though, he's a young pup too though!! Hoping others will point out good, bad etc to help me make a decision!!|
by gagsd4 on 15 December 2011 - 16:58
|When my Ari and Anik and even Akina-girl (not related) were that age, they FLEW up the dog ramp, and no tug was safe .|
Just very fast, very full grips, and did not let go unless they were tired, or I made the game quit.
The puppy in the video appears much more low-key. Perhaps someone with more experience with choosing puppies will pipe up. Do you have a trainer wo can give input?
I would be more concerned with how cautious the puppy appeared on the dog-walk, than his grip. But again, JMO.
by Avery Hill Kennels on 15 December 2011 - 17:07
|I agree with Mary I would consider this a low to medium drive puppy medium confidence I would pass on it if it was me.I would think this was more a "pet" prospect but should do fine in SAR and/or agility with lots of socialization and confidence building.|
I do really like the ped. on it though is there no other puppies in the litter to choose from ?
by Two Moons on 15 December 2011 - 17:07
|Thats one fat puppy.|
Consider more than the video when buying something you cant see yourself in person.
by muttlover25 on 15 December 2011 - 17:18
|Exactly what I needed to hear, thanks!|
by Jenni78 on 15 December 2011 - 18:52
|I expected much worse based on other comments. He's not over the top in terms of the tug, so for those who care about that, it may be a deterrent. He seems willing to please, biddable, medium-drive overall, and I didn't see anything wrong with the way he approached the obstacle. I don't have any idea how many times he's done it before. If he hasn't done it before, he did well. He was cautious and aware of the danger, which I like, personally, but he didn't freeze, kept on going and didn't rush through it. Many pups (and dogs) will rush through an obstacle that makes them nervous which can be dangerous. I prefer a thinker who might take a little longer, but pays attention to what he is doing and doesn't shut down under stress. His body language didn't suggest extreme stress to me, either. I think he does seem fairly low-key which isn't altogether a bad thing. It all depends on what you're looking for.|
I will say he's not in the shape I like to see puppies in. He is fat- and he's not super heavy boned; his body vs. his legs is what I noticed.
by Kevlar on 15 December 2011 - 19:18
|This puppy does seem too heavy. He looks like a long coat which always look a little bear like but he still looked a little heavy. He looks about 12 weeks old?? My pup at 12 weeks old wouldn't have let go of that tug so easily. he seems mildly interested in chasing it but doesn't really care for it once he has got it. Also, he seems very food driven and less prey driven. Seems like when the food wasn't a factor he kind of lost interest.|
by muttlover25 on 15 December 2011 - 19:41
|Again thanks for your opinions. If I was looking for obedience/agility/SAR I would take this pup in a heartbeat BUT I am more interested in doing Schutzhund/Protection and obedience so I think I'm going to pass. My main issue is not getting to meet him in person and really get to spend some time with him. I'm going to keep looking and hopefully will find the perfect match for us. I'm in no hurry!|
Thanks so much,
by Jenni78 on 15 December 2011 - 20:25
|Right now, that pup looks like a dream. The brat I have (not letting him go to "Christmas buyers" so he'll stay until after Xmas) here is a monster- he's ripped all the insulation foam off my air conditioner hoses, he demolished my storm door, annihilated most of my son's sandbox toys, nearly all the new bushes I planted end of summer (I know...stupid move) and when he's finished doing that, he jumps up and down and machine-gun barks in my face until I offer something else to do. Sooo....the chubby, sweet, fluffy black pup looks like a godsend.|
by muttlover25 on 15 December 2011 - 20:33
|I hear you!! Be careful what you ask for right?!!|
by Jenni78 on 15 December 2011 - 20:59
|Precisely. I ask my bf on a daily basis, why do I breed these kinds of pups? Don't get me wrong, the person who buys him will be happy when they can channel that drive effectively, but when you're trying to something ELSE, it's a bit much!|
by Nadeem6 on 15 December 2011 - 21:14
|Yeah it can be a brutal few months with a puppy. Lots of cuts and ripped clothing and thinking how can i deal with this thing when it gets really big. |
But it ends up working out if you keep at it. I am in the minority in that i don't really like puppies. But once they mature then you can release that energy in the right direction, that being AWAY from you and towards a helper or some obstacle course.
by cookiedam on 15 December 2011 - 21:19
|This pup only looks about 9 weeks. Cant expect too much at that age but he is lower drive. Looks pretty balanced.|
by GSDPACK on 15 December 2011 - 21:19
Cute puppy but my weakest puppies at 6 weeks looks like monsters on wheels compared to the puppy on the video... significantly more drives : food,prey, fight, and determination on the bite... under some distraction and on slippery floors (back in a day people used to pay me to raise dogs for LE so I pretty much have those turds around an Elephant if the local Zoo lets me!
Good luck in your search... this dog is not a PSA prospect from the video but it is always so hard to judge... I do PSA and I do Schutzhund and I do LE work type with my dogs with the local police for fun and I would not consider this puppy for more than a pet as it is right now!
Maybe some people who raised, trained and trialed in PSA/Schutz will chime in for you to help you with a puppy.
by Jenni78 on 15 December 2011 - 21:44
|I'm with Nadeem. I could go my entire life never having another puppy. They are a necessary evil, as kittens do not grow up into dogs. |
I don't think a calm puppy is a bad thing if the necessary determination is there. I honestly wish my pups were a bit "less" sometimes, as it would make them easier to place. However, once you get through it, as Nadeem said, they're soooo worth it! And actually, Bravo (Nadeem's dog) wasn't too too bad. He was just a hair more laidback in certain areas. I loved him.
by k9sar on 16 December 2011 - 02:06
|I have purchased for myself and many others many dogs from Eurosport. No issues purchaseing from them. They are honest, shipping arrangements are smooth. Do not hesitiate getting anything from them. I have 2 in my house , both working dogs.|
theyare just what they advertised them to be
by BoCRon on 16 December 2011 - 13:27
|He's a cute pup, and I love the constant happy tail wag. A bit hesitant at times it looks like, would probably make a great pet. |
I'm not totally sure that he is really that fat, part of it looks like coat and the video itself seems to have not loaded in proportion. The entire pic looks skewed to me, so I think that the physical structure of the pup may not appear accurate.
by destiny4u on 16 December 2011 - 19:22
|did they tell you this puppy is good for agility or sar or did u just see the puppy and like it ?|