German Shepherd Dog > Is £2000 too much to pay for importing a dog from Jinopo cz into the UK (239 replies)
by aloysius17 on 10 December 2011 - 02:04
|Dear Hans, Thank you very much for your post. The company in the UK was recommended to me by Petre, Jiris son. I comtacted him via the email address provided on the website regarding importing a dog directly from Jinopo. He said that as of 2012 dogs could be imported via the company. The comparison is very useful. Hans what do you think of Cerna Bohemia's dogs. I know Oskar is from the same bloodlines as some of the Jinopo dogs. Thanks again|
by aloysius17 on 10 December 2011 - 02:19
|Dear Ace I know it sounds superficial but yes, the appearance is one of the main reasons why I like the Czech lines. Workability is present in this line but can also be found in other lines closer to home. Appearance is a reason but not the only one.|
by Prager on 10 December 2011 - 04:13
|I do not know anything about this kennel.|
But by the name it is one of the Czech marketing copy cats since the name is grammatically incorrect thus not from Czech speeking person. That is often dead give away since Czech grammar is hard to grasp for individuals who are not Czech natives. It should be Cerna Bohemie. Cerna Bohemia would be mixing Czech and English grammar. You can say Black Bohemia but in Czech it is Cerna Bohemie.
Oscar is a really well bred dog, but in combination with their female Bora there is a probability for major 2 fold nightmare which may show sooner or later in this or next generation. That is as far as hips go ( Bitch is A3= Noch zugelassen =OFA mild displasia in combination with 2 x Klara may be a real problem, (and some info is on some dogs hips is missing=red flag) Maybe 1 x Titus can fix some of it but ,...)
And high probability of hard to control extreme aggression. Do research on Boban! Not an easy dog to handle. In combination with Ex and Gero I believe there could be some bloodshed since that is 4th line which is known for aggression against the handler. Thus 1+1=2
Good looking dogs though, but who cares:)? I would not have pups from this combination. Each of these 2 dogs ( especially the male) may do well in some other combinations, but to put them together is not my idea of fun. or of breeding of versatile dogs which that is what GSD should be.
But who knows maybe I am wrong, breeding is often surprising, .....but I doubt it.
JMO since you asked.
by Prager on 10 December 2011 - 04:18
Dear Ace I know it sounds superficial but yes, the appearance is one of the main reasons why I like the Czech lines. Workability is present in this line but can also be found in other lines closer to home. Appearance is a reason but not the only one.
We could say the exact opposite too. Here is my humble advice.
Always look at temperament first and then look at looks as a bonus. Above breeding is an good example why not to look at looks first.
As a matter of fact you should not be looking for a dog, but you should be looking for a reputable breeder of quality dogs who will recomend you an appropriate dog based on your needs. To look for dogs via internet is almost always a failure or just dumb luck.
by aloysius17 on 11 December 2011 - 01:38
|Thanks Hans for your advice, I think I just might wait for a Jinopo litter. One of the things that I really appreciate about Jinopo is that they are an established breeder and so many people have been satified with their dogs, also they offer a health guarantee which is not all too common.|
by Chaz Reinhold on 11 December 2011 - 02:21
|Hans, are you guys finding it easier to breed the "Old style Czech dogs" with all the WG lines?|
by Red Sable on 11 December 2011 - 13:19
|LOL. gotta love you Chaz.|
by kazulani on 11 December 2011 - 14:35
|Just wanted to add this.|
But Bora has had a nest before with another DDR male and this gave not only beautiful puppies, but very good character too and so far pre-lims look good.
Here a female from the first nest of Bora:
by Red Sable on 11 December 2011 - 14:38
|Solid looking girl, how old in those pictures?|
by kazulani on 11 December 2011 - 14:55
|6 months I think...|
by Super Para on 12 December 2011 - 08:49
Is that your Bitch? she is beautiful. Who was the Sire? and how is she maturing?
by Cuakenh on 12 December 2011 - 10:18
|too much for dog|
by reason on 12 December 2011 - 11:53
|WAY TO MUCH for a good looking dog and the health guarantee is almost worthless, what will they do give you £2000 back if it has duff hips, elbows or character I THINK not bast you could hope for is a replacement puppy, you will still have to pay the shipping again and then you have 2 cos they wont take it back, i think you are looking at a bad deal, also if you are insistant on a dog from the kennel why dont you just get the cost of the pupt plus vacs and a few weeks keeping and go fetch it at 1/2 the cost|
by aloysius17 on 12 December 2011 - 13:36
|Hi reason, Do you mean drive there? I was considering it, 14 hour drive doesn't sound too bad|
by M_Asbury on 13 December 2011 - 16:17
|Only a 14 hr drive - to pick out your own puppy from the litter? Well worth it.. |
by frankm205 on 13 December 2011 - 21:05
|2,000 E is way too much for a puppy. There are excellent litters here in the USA there is no reason to buy one from Overseas. There are many good Czech dogs here that come from excellent bloodlines and will be much cheaper for you. Don't be fooled by all the BS Czech breeding spirit crap. A good dog is a good dog no matter were it comes from. I have purchased many dogs from Czech, Slovak, Germany etc..hundreds!!!! When and if there is a problem with your puppy you will have to jump through hoops to get any guarantees refunded. Buy from America, if you need help PM me and I'll get you a puppy as good if not better for 1/2 the money guaranteed!!!|
by aloysius17 on 13 December 2011 - 21:33
|Hi frank, Just to clarify, I live in London, England, uk. Nevertheless, I appreciate your advice|
by Full Moon on 13 December 2011 - 23:04
by Red Sable on 13 December 2011 - 23:46
|Good point Full Moon.|
by aloysius17 on 13 December 2011 - 23:46