German Shepherd Dog > Carly Policia-Slovakia & parents (18 replies)

Carly Policia-Slovakia & parents
by Ibrahim on 22 November 2011 - 20:18
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Carly is sable color



His parents pictures in PDB are Bi-color/Black & tan
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=598600
Hanibal Equidus

Quinte Policia-Slovakia


The parents names are correct and true, but as black/tan and bi-color when mated can not produce sable offspring I think at least one of the above parents' pictures is incorrect. Am I right?
Does anyone have pictures of Quinte and or Hanibal? any help to correct the entries in PDB related to Carly parents true pictures will be appreciated.
If anyone is curious why I care then it's because I have a Carly daughter.

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Ibrahim
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by cage on 22 November 2011 - 20:35
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I think the female in the photo is not Quinte,I just checked info on Quinte on SUCHNO web,her BST code is 5CV5/45 ,V stands for sable color.
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by cphudson on 22 November 2011 - 20:38
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The photo of the sire should be correct. Carly does tend to produce a lot of bi-colors / solid blacl offspring.
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by cphudson on 22 November 2011 - 20:49
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This link shows the picture of the dam to be Quinte's sister Quanda - http://www.nemecky-ovciak.sk/module/cynology/female/629/quanda-policia-slovakia-40074-suchno/ 
No photo's listed for the other siblings Quinte, & Quinta
Also this PDB thread also has a photo of sister Quanda -
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=19089&pagen=3 
Hans gives more info on Quinte
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by Ibrahim on 22 November 2011 - 21:04
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Thank you cphudson and cage for the info, hopefully a member has a correct picture of the dam, such a nice stud like Carly deserves to have his pedigree correct on the PDB. Thanks a lot to both.

Ibrahim
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by Hukka on 22 November 2011 - 22:16
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The female in the picture posted is Quanda Policia-Slovakia 5CKVI5/45N. Quinte Policia-Slovakia is sable like Cage said.
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by cphudson on 22 November 2011 - 22:56
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 Ibrahim, I also have a Carly daughter, who is your daughter out of?
My girls pedigree - http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=669111 
Very bad picture of her though, but I can't ever seem to get a half way decent one of her yet.


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by darylehret on 22 November 2011 - 22:56
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Quanda's shouldn't be 5CKVI5/45N, because the "V" would indicate that she is also sable.

Bonitačný kód: 5CKI5/45N 1tr.

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by Ibrahim on 22 November 2011 - 23:22
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cphudson,

My female dog is daughter of Galina z jirkova dvora

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=631648

T
he picture in her pedigree is few months old, now she filled out and looks much better, some time back I wasn't happy with her structure but at the moment she looks good, she's very sweet girl and recently she started showing some territory protectiveness but I can't say as much as I was hoping for, maybe with some good training she would be a good protector.
I sometimes do imaginary progeny to check the linebreeding, I just removed the 1 imaginary progeny which was shown there, thought it was good to mention this.

Ibrahim
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by cphudson on 23 November 2011 - 00:12
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Ibrahim, she must have high prey drives with Illo & Grim in her dam line. I always liked the bi-colors. She looks like a pretty girl over all but hard to tell at that age for their structure.

My Carly girl is slow developer. She just recently starting showing more serious protectiveness of territory & family after she turned 15 months old. But I don't find her as high in this area as I thought she would be. The photo of her on the database she was about 10 months old. At first we were very disappointed in her working progress in bite work. But once again she hit over 15 months old & it was like a light switch went off. Then everything came together. I also have a future test litter listed under her pedigree.  

I hope someone can find the right photo of Carly's dam. I would love to see it.



 

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by Hukka on 23 November 2011 - 02:20
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Yes Daryl you are correct and I misspelled, it is 5CKI5/45N I.tr. , not V. Her sister Quinte is 5CV5/45N I.tr.  and sable. I have picture of her also and seen her also.
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by darylehret on 23 November 2011 - 15:18
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Folks here would love for you to share that pic.  I'm sort of interested too, since my ex has a nice Carly/Fiba son.

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by Fenrir on 23 November 2011 - 17:05
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Yeah...I see your concern, I mean I am sure it is not that big a deal but obviously one of those dogs is not the parent as only Sables can produce Sables. Wonder how the pedigree got screwed up, well hopefully someone can help you put the right dog up there. Of course maybe a sly fox got into the hen house ;). Also obviously it would be the father that is showing incorrectly since I would hope they would know who the mom is...since she gave birth to them and all. Well maybe it was just entered wrong on the site...hmmm
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by Ibrahim on 23 November 2011 - 17:22
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Thanks Fenrir, most likely it's the picture of the mother that is incorrect, if so then the mother's picture on the pedigree is the litter's aunt, not that far, lol. 
A correct picture will be a good help as Daryl said and I take this chance to wish Daryl and all who contributed a nice warm evening.

Ibrahim
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by darylehret on 23 November 2011 - 17:34
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Actually, I think Annie sent me that pic in an email a couple years ago.  I'll look for it later.  If I remember right, she's not near as nicely structurally put together as her sister Quanda.
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by Gusmanda on 23 November 2011 - 21:49
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not entirely sure about the assumption of sables only being produced by sable parents, have seen dogs with sable grandparents come out of black/bicolor matings.
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by cage on 24 November 2011 - 07:27
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Gusmanda,it is not an assumption,it is a fact.Sable color is dominat in GSDs.
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by darylehret on 24 November 2011 - 10:59
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Here's the picture Quinte that Annie sent.

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by cphudson on 24 November 2011 - 12:38
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Thanks for finding & posting the picture
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