German Shepherd Dog > female vs male dogs for protection (20 replies)
female vs male dogs for protection
by gsds30281 on 11 October 2011 - 21:11
Is one actually better than the other in protection due to the size difference between male and female gsds?
by Red Sable on 11 October 2011 - 22:05
I'd say no, males if larger may be a bit more intimidating, but not necessarily better at protection. ( I have a male and female the same size, so males are not always larger either.)
by gsds30281 on 11 October 2011 - 22:09
|Thanks for the info and cool picture lol|
by Ace952 on 11 October 2011 - 22:14
|yeah many threads on it. I personally would go with a female especially if she has had a litter.|
by Q Man on 11 October 2011 - 22:24
|It comes down to personal preference and you're personal situation...|
It also comes down to each and every individual dog...Some Males are better and some Females are better...
I've had both Males and Females that I'd consider perfect personal protectors...
You must consider so much but it comes down to "A GOOD DOG Is A GOOD DOG"...no matter which sex...
Many people prefer Males because usually they're Bigger and more Intimidating...and also a lot of people don't like to or don't want to contend with a Female's Heat Cycles...
Although I wouldn't consider one over the other according to sex...But I'd choose one over the other according to their personality...and ability to do the job...
I personally would prefer a Female...but it comes down to each their own...
by waleed on 11 October 2011 - 23:25
|sad sad sad sad|
by Red Sable on 12 October 2011 - 00:24
|Waleed, what the heck is so sad? You don't think dogs should be used as deterrents or is it the fact that yours can't be? is that what is so sad? |
We are not encouraging anyones dog to eat their neighbours child, or their neighbour even. Dogs are great indicators of unwanted company, and great deterrents- some can even be great protectors.
If I feel safer walking at night with my dog beside me, and you don't like it, too bad, so sad. If my dog sends the thieves to your house and they leave mine alone, too bad so sad.
The GSD has been bred to be more than a sheep herder, they have also been guard dogs and police dogs. They SHOULD be bred with a natural protective instinct.
If you don't like that aspect, fine, you can always get or breed Golden's.
by todd6414 on 12 October 2011 - 00:40
I think most would agree that females can be a bit more sesitive while training. One wrong move from someone inexperienced and she can shut right down. I also like it if the dog is smaller so I would personally prefer a female. Have you ever seen 100lb male running full speed during a long bite? It almost looks like they can be out run.
by Siantha on 12 October 2011 - 01:26
|must have bin working with a very sensitive female then i have bin around some who can take a ton of pressure and just feed off of it i agree that it is the individual dog and i beg to differ it looks like it and some do run slow but if you get one that moves the helper is going down lol. its quite funny to watch actuly as long as both helper and k9 are ok.|
by ronin on 12 October 2011 - 08:44
|If I was 70yrs old, getting a bit frail and living in an apartment then the female would be the perfect choice. If I was living in a bigger house with a large garden I might consider the Male because when he's marching about he looks more imposing.|
I work in the personal protection world, regularly at the home of the PM, retired PM, and the our new Princess Kate. I'll tell you now protection is 99% deterrent value. I even worked on Mrs Obama's summer visit to Oxford this year, the US Teams take that to another level.
I do joke that no one's more loyal than daddy's little girl, but I still feel the females are undervalued in what they offer work wise and breeding.
by Red Sable on 12 October 2011 - 09:54
|My female is anything but sensitive todd, so, that is not a gender issue, but a genetic one.|
by Silbertaler on 12 October 2011 - 16:05
|I have two females with IPO 3 and 3 males with IPO 1/2/3. No difference!|
by destiny4u on 12 October 2011 - 16:19
|i thought the op meant real protection sibertaler?|
my female is way better than my male real protection wise but my male was just a byb shepherd he didnt have any real protection in him he would never protect anyone natural aggression and true courage were bred out of him by crappy breeders he made a good pet but thats all not something that would have ur back if you got in trouble
but its not fair to compare these two cause my otehr one is a lot of czcech blood and good belgum blood with lots of very good strong dogs in her so i dont know this question lol
by SchaeferhundSchH on 12 October 2011 - 16:57
|Ace952 why would you rather have a female after a litter? Are you implying having a litter makes for a better protection ability in a female? or are you speaking in regards to getting a female and knowing she can produce before you get her?|
by destiny4u on 12 October 2011 - 17:10
|because when females go into heat and when they have a litter they become aggressive and protective towards humans hes saying i think|
by TIG on 12 October 2011 - 18:57
I'm not 70 yet only 62 but I do have a mobility disorder and my sport dog is also my service dog. You may want to rethink the plan you state above.
Take a look at http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=485683 and then search google or bing for: youtube remy and beth nw regionals ( if anyone can embed the link I would appreciate it I have not a clue)
Remy is nothing but a crowd pleaser because she really brings it to the table and has a great time doing it [she favors the KNVP version of the transport so she can keep a real good eye on that helper :)))) ] My favorite comment as this was being filmed someone in the crowd behind Julia said " I betcha noone tries to take THAT lady's canes away from her."
OP - it all depends on the individual dog.
by Ace952 on 12 October 2011 - 19:22
Destiny was exactly right. I want that maternal instincts to really kick in which I feel will happen after the first litter.
Now this question is pretty broad so you have to break it down. Are you looking for a puppy or a trained dog? If it's a trained dog then it is simply what dogs you see work and which one's have it. If your looking at a potential puppy then you need to look at bloodlines.
I personally don't care about size and the dog being intimidating. Yes, looks will be a deterrent but I don't want a big male who looks nasty but flops on its back either. I would rather take a smaller female (60-75 lbs) that may not look intimidating but is ready for you to bring the fight.
Todd - I'd like to see who is the man that can outrun a 100lb GSD. I have seen some 100 gsd's that haul ass and you ain't out running them. Just because the dog is 100 lb does it mean that they are out of shape or slow.
Before looking at female/males, you need to look at the pedigree and see what lines the dogs are coming from to give you an idea of how the dog could be with the right training. Again depends on if you are getting a puppy or adult dog. Adult dog the hell with pedigree...its all about the work. With a puppy, you dive into the pedigree to see what you COULD potentially have.
@Ronin - Would love to hear some of your stories about the work you have done as I bet they are pretty interesting.
by gsds30281 on 13 October 2011 - 21:39
|few more questions|
- would a female that has never had a litter be very less protective from one that has
- would spaying a female cause any change in protectiveness/behavior
- if the dog was a only a companion dog is it recommended to get her spayed
- what age is best to get a dog spayed if there is no intent to breed her
- just curious, would a female have a weaker bite force than a male dog
by wanderer on 13 October 2011 - 21:46
|My female loves people, is wiggly happy around children. In protection, she is 110 percent. Only problem, she'd like to do it all herself, LOL. Fast like a bullet, full-on grips, intense guarding. What's not to like about that? Oh yeah, and she had 8 perfect pups last spring. She is my best friend and my little hot shot!|
by GSDdrive1 on 19 October 2011 - 16:35
|I agree with those who have said protectiveness is based on the individual dog rather than the sex. I have a 4 1/2 year old femaile who hits like a freight train and bites as hard as any male at our club, and we have some good ones. Not only that but she likes the fight as much or more than the bite. Spaying her had absolutely no effect on her behavior.|