German Shepherd Dog > Tessie's big head! (33 replies)
Tessie's big head!
by mirasmom on 22 September 2011 - 00:53
|We are expecting pups soon, like maybe in about 4 hours, gotta wait till the wee hours ya know, anyway, I got a very nice shot of Tessie's head today, she's just sticking very close to me, kinda fun hang'n out with Tessie, she's great company!|
Got 9 people on the list, mostly they want a female pup, she's huge......
by Donnerstorm on 22 September 2011 - 02:26
|She is gorgeous! Good luck tonight.|
by Dawulf on 22 September 2011 - 03:43
|Pretty girl... <3|
by Berniemac on 22 September 2011 - 15:12
|Best of luck. Hope she has a nice smooth devlivery of those pups. She is just beautiful.|
by mirasmom on 22 September 2011 - 15:42
|OK....today is my birthday, I am NOT planning on keeping any of Tessie's pups, I am very happy I now have 10 people on the list......|
I think I'd rather her have the pups tomorrow, the day after my birthday, that would be less tempting, if ya know what I mean........
Here is her big belly today, ready to pop!!!
by Donnerstorm on 22 September 2011 - 21:39
|puppies yet?? Those last couple of days I think we are more anxious then they are.|
by Escobar on 22 September 2011 - 22:44
|Wow! She's amazing, pedigree please!!!|
by Nans gsd on 22 September 2011 - 23:16
|Do you know how many? Wow that is some belly. She looks great. Best of luck NAn|
by mirasmom on 23 September 2011 - 12:31
|Thanks everyone, here is her son I kept from the last litter, these will be his siblings:|
She is ripping up the newspapers in her puppy pen, so today is the day, glad it's no longer my birthday........
First time I bred Theo and Tessie their were 9 all regular coated, second time 4 regular 4 long coats, can't wait to see what we get this time around.
I have personally met all the dogs in the first 3 generations of the pedigree, and have first hand knowledge of their temperaments and overall health, that I like, Mira will be 11 in December and still very healthy, I met her grand-sire Blitzen, and many of his relatives, some were 14 years and older, I am so hoping someday that our breed can live healthy and happy well into their teens, maybe even close to 20 years, wouldn't that be something!
Someone did tell me that one of my pups I had sold their dad back in the early eighties had lived to be seventeen, that was from Mira's mom's side, related to Mira's mom Millie.
I feel bad when I get a call from someone looking for a pup and they tell me their shepherd just passed away at 4 years old from health problems.
I'll let you know how everything turns out, we're about to be very busy for the rest of the day!
by sueincc on 23 September 2011 - 12:59
|It seems from your above post and other posts of yours that good health is of utmost concern to you, which is a very good thing, and a sign of a conscientious breeder. |
I'm curious though, what about hip health? I notice on the OFA site neither the dam (Tessie von Ryan) or her mother (Sam) have passing hip scores listed, but there are passing scores listed for various other things like elbows. Did you not submit these dogs hip xrays to OFA? Do you use an alternative resource for certifying hip health like PennHip or the SV via their program through UScA or WDA?
by mirasmom on 23 September 2011 - 15:25
|OFA is a tool I use for all my dogs, I send all my dogs hip & elbow x-rays into OFA, if they say borderline or mild at OFA, based on past experience, they usually never ever reverse their decision, so if your female is coming into heat & you x-ray her and she has mild sublaxation, than hey, that's that.|
I'm sure I could start to penn-hip everyone, or send x-rays to SV, but I have decided to post the x-ray pictures on their pages, I am not hiding anything.
I have a son of Tessie's that is ofa good, I also have many dogs out there that are not experiencing joint problems.
No dog is a perfect whole, I understand, but at the same time I like to weigh the pro's and con's on each individual dog's health and what I could possibably have as an end result.
I stand behind my dogs 100% and look to improve my bloodlines the best I know how based on personal experience and knowledge of each individual dog I breed to.
by lzaichenko on 23 September 2011 - 15:30
So what were Tessie's hip scores? Borderline? Why would you x-ray a bitch around estrous?
by sueincc on 23 September 2011 - 19:28
|Well I do appreciate your taking the time to explain, but to tell you the truth, I don't really get what you're saying. On the one hand it sounds like you are implying borderline and mild OFA ratings are not correct since your dogs were in heat or that they are not correct ratings but OFA won't change their ratings once given, (not everyone would agree with that statement), yet on the other hand you say you weigh the pros and cons since no dog is a perfect health whole. |
It just seems kind of an odd dychotomy also because your contract prohibits customers from breeding the dogs they buy from you unless the dogs are certified free of dysplasia from OFA, while that's exactly what you are doing by breeding Tess, since neither her or her mother certified free of dysplasia by OFA . Maybe that's not such a bad thing at all since most puppy buyers do not have the experience and have no business breeding dogs anyway!!
In any case, you seem like a very sincere person, who not only loves her dogs, but does her best to insure puppy buyers get healthy, happy puppies that will be great companions and both will have good lives together, and in the end, that's all anyone can ask for.
by CMills on 24 September 2011 - 01:41
|I think she is a gorgeous big girl, love her pigment. On OFA not changing their results once given, that is NOT correct. My best friend had a ch. male that PennHip'ed 100% (excellent) at 18 months old, so she went to have him OFA'ed at 2 yrs, and they FAILED him with mild HD! Needless to say, my friend was absolutely shocked, and in disbelief since she saw how tight the hips were at 18 months. So she waited a year, re-xrayed and submitted them again, and second time around he went OFA Excellent. So you can't always go by that!!|
by Kalibeck on 24 September 2011 - 14:52
|Anyway-----is there a puppy update???? Sure could use a dose of puppy cuteness right about now....!!!! There's no better way to sweeten a day! And Tessie's so pretty, these are gorgeous pups! So is Momma still keeping you waiting? jackie harris|
by mirasmom on 25 September 2011 - 00:22
|Thank you all for taking the time to read my post.|
I had a very strange delivery with Tessie's pups, I had many stillborn males that looked like they grew too big for the sacks they were in.
Every other pup was a stillborn.
I ended up with 4 very healthy active females.
This makes me think........WHY......WHY after having a normal litter with the same dog that it would be any different.
I did two things different this time when I bred Tessie & Theo, I let them mate if they wanted for a week, cause I was unsure of when Tessie's heat started, so I said why not, they both live here.
Usually it's mate 1 day, skip a day or 2 and mate again, that's that.
The second thing is I fed Tessie more than I normally would, but I admit that I over fed her a really good diet, she got quite big, I wanted her & the pups to be healthy.
I am wondering if letting her breed with Theo for the whole week could have caused some pups to be older than the others...........
OR>>could a bitch that is fed too good a diet produce overweight pups that take up too much space in the womb......
Here are the girls!!!! Two black & reds and two sables!
by Donnerstorm on 25 September 2011 - 01:26
|aww they are cute!|
by Kalibeck on 25 September 2011 - 02:01
|Awww- these girls are adorable! How heartbreaking about the males. That certainly sounds very strange. I don't see how letting them breed adlib could have anything to do with it....diet however??? I don't know that I've ever heard of diet doing that, but what do I know? I do know how much you care about your dogs, & how sad this must have made you. I send you hugs & best wishes, & prayers. I hope you can put this behind you, & enjoy those darling girls. Everything happens for a reason, whether we ever learn the reason or not. God bless you! jackie harris|
by CMills on 25 September 2011 - 04:09
|My vet told me that letting them breed several days in a row can/will result in different "age" pups, since some of the eggs mature sooner than others. And he also said that overfeeding the bitch can also make the pups too big/fat. I'm sooo sorry for your puppy loss, however, but the living girls are beautiful, and congrats on them! Take good care of them, and mom.|
by Jenni78 on 25 September 2011 - 04:36
What did you overfeed her with? Any supplements?