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Sieger by Annie on 02 September 2011 - 14:16 |
| Any news from Germany as to which dogs have passed the Bite Work? |
by jah on 02 September 2011 - 23:00 |
| You may be able to find out form Bela at von deutsch kennel. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/userinfo.html?userid=36128 |
by JudyK on 02 September 2011 - 23:07 |
| Results are here: http://www.schaeferhunde.de/site/fileadmin/pdf/veranstaltungen/bsz_2011/listen/ghklr-tsb.pdf |
by Red Sable on 02 September 2011 - 23:27 |
| Can someone explain that please? What are the columns? I see the majority of X's in the first column, so what does that mean? |
Red Sable by Abby Normal on 02 September 2011 - 23:29 |
| Wow, Bix von Arlett washed out. Would have expected better from a dog with his titles. |
Abby Normal by danbee on 03 September 2011 - 03:27 |
| If I'm reading it right, Arex failed too. He was expected to be VA2. |
by SitasMom on 03 September 2011 - 05:02 |
| Either didn't pass or didn't show...... Out of 521 dogs.....its a short list.... Harris vom Assaut Mischaland's Solo Darius von Cleo Cos della Grande Valle Vigu von der Urbecke Quiro vom Wäschtengraben Loacker di Val Sant' Anna Xano von der kleinen Birke Xero zur Wolfskammer Zack vom Ritterberg Homar dei Colli di Uzzano Xico v. Schwarzaugen Quaks vom Holtkämper See Agos degli Achei Yoss von der Buchecke Glenn vom Uckerstrom Falko Garos d' Ulmental Xantonio vom Hühnegrab Tyson vom Moorbeck Goswin vom Hühnegrab Hippi Crveni Mayestoso Ufoh von Wilhendorf Mork dei Profeti Uncas vom Leithawald Maestro de Quevedo Tigger di Casa Jose Agassy von der Piste Trophe Kostas v. Timohaus Yannick Maserau Rocky von der Waldesruh Onex aus der Mövenstraße Jerom del Murnighello U-Foco v. Franzhaus Elmo vom Hühnegrab Quido van Noort Carras vom Afolderbach Bill vom Kranich's Hof Apo Ronny vom Haus Kasfeld Ilbo vom Hanneß Monty vom Haus Pe-Ja Idol vom Welsetal Vegas vom Externstein Negus vom Lärchenhain Geck di Casa Nobili Valco von der Dänischen Wieck Dallas du Haut Mansard Arek vom Wormlager Hof Esko del Giarizzo Kwantum de Quevedo Ulk vom Faustbrunnen Zeus von der Dänischen Wieck Cid vom Dreisbachtal Pernod vom Heinrichplatz Vegas vom Hochheimer Stein Icon von Bad-Boll Rony vom Fürst-Georg-Brunnen Jalk von Lesimo Lumpi von der Bärenschlucht Santo vom Eichenplatz Argo von Lentulo Quattro vom Fichtenschlag-Zwinger Lenon della Valle del Liri Kimon del Campo de la Verdad Viktor vom Elzmündungsraum Ritchi vom Eichenplatz Canyon von der Lars-Aue Sultan van Contra Margman Witraz Sam vom Teutoburger-Wald Scotty von der Grafenburg Yoyo zur Worringer Rheinaue Kanto von der Karl-May Höhle Bix von Arlett Iko v. Termitenstaat Xen vom Heerbusch Yabu vom Kapellenberg Percy vom Streek Vasco del Ceresio Monlow della Genia Osca Opus v. Radhaus Vegas von der Burg Haidstein Zasko vom Frankengold Nelson vom Frankengold Ebafarmens Izaro Yake vom Zellwaldrand Iarko v. Muikenshof Oxford v. Radhaus Shyrhan Lehmburg Wallaby vom Kapellenberg Piff-Paff vom Leithawald Arex von der Wilhelmswarte Dasty von Arlett Urbo vom Leithawald E'U2 de la Petite Laeticia Gomo von der Malchower Aue Garmond Nutz Hill vom Hause Monika Kevin d' Ulmental Ozon v. Radhaus Yankee vom Heidknapp Marco di Casa Gregori City Do' Phedrei Duce dell Appio Negus zum Gigelsfelsen Ando von der Hopfenhalle Umberto Tensor Guenflin de Aramur Benthu do Mhuramel Wotan vom Kleinen Holzweg Alex vom Ritterberg Justin vom Assaut Leri Zeppo Eros delle Colonne D'Ercole Dino di Casa Nobili Quant aus dem Aurum Zwinger Yanosch vom Hochfirst Watz von der Neudenauer Holzsteige Rothco's Ashan Khan Dion v. Amasis Thaisson vom St.-Michaels-Berg Fox von AnDE-HeNA Valdo von der Konsteinklippe Wolly de Los Madriles |
by bazza on 03 September 2011 - 08:52 |
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by anne h on 03 September 2011 - 10:55 |
| sorry a bit thick here does the x mean its a no show or didnt pass |
by bobby999 on 03 September 2011 - 11:34 |
| SO who qualified? where are the results of successful dogs.. |
by Gil Blu on 03 September 2011 - 12:46 |
| Can somebody explain what means second, third and fourth column ? |
by reason on 03 September 2011 - 16:27 |
| First column PROUNOUNCED COURAGE and lets out PASS Second column PROUNOUNCED COURAGE no out I THINK FAIL Third column EXISTING COURAGE and lets out LOW PASS Fourth column EXISTING COURAGE no out FAIL Fifth colum CRAP |
by Red Sable on 03 September 2011 - 16:28 |
| Thank you reason :) |
by Sunsilver on 03 September 2011 - 16:46 |
| Allow me to introduce you to a good friend of mine: Babelfish http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ You may find it handy in the days to come. And, if you're going to be serious about this breed, it's a good idea to pick up a bit of basic German. Ausgepragt, lasst ab means 'pronounced, lets out (releases)' Ausgepragt, lasst nicht ab, means 'pronounced, does not let go' Vorhanden, lasst ab means 'sufficient, lets out' vorhanden. lasst nicht ab means 'sufficient, does not let out.' Nicht genugend means 'insufficient' And abgebrochen wegen mangelnder Führigkeit means 'broken off because of lack of obedience' which probably means the dog was run off the field! Here's a good site for Schutzhund terms: http://www.asuperiorgsd.com/germanterminology.html And here's a previous thread on the database re. the terms used in the Sieger show: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins.read?mnr=247261&pagen=1 |
Sunsilver by dshlerner on 03 September 2011 - 18:37 |
| The first column refers to the dogs who were rated "Pronounced" and released on command. This is the ONLY passing rating. And Sunsilver,,,,regarding your final "translation"....no,that does NOT mean that the dog was "probably run off the field"...rather,it means that the dog showed a failure of obedience/lack of control in its heeling toward the blind. They get 3 tries and then they are out of the competition. Hope this helps. |
by dshlerner on 03 September 2011 - 18:44 |
| Also,vorhanden means present,not sufficient. |
by Abby Normal on 03 September 2011 - 20:02 |
| Priceless - see you are doing it again. Bix is a very popular sire at the moment. You will know that I am a big fan of maintaining working ability within the breed. When a popular sire washes out badly IMO it should be a concern, I take note particularly when that dog is being used here in the UK, and is held up as such a top notch example of the breed. Reason: at the moment in the UK there is an active strategy of not adopting working tests, whilst handing out breed surveys. Therefore, the only measure of how much (or little) working ability is being 'passed down' is based on the titles of the sire and dam. That in itself is at best, a minimalist approach, and very questionable IMO. A dog then that has achieved these titles should not bomb so badly. I do question breeders (especially the ones who set themselves up as the most knowledgable), using dogs for looks alone - the 'beauty pageant' approach, without visible evidence of working ability. Makes you wonder about basing choices on titles. If the cap fits, it should be worn. Actually, I was quite shocked that Bix failed so badly. I was also watching for Elmo but looks like he was a no show. See I don't trust any breeders who actively campaign against the inclusion of working ability. A bit like politics, always look for the reasons, they will be there. Thanks priceless I definitely value transparency. Abs. |
by Gil Blu on 03 September 2011 - 20:26 |
| What do you think about protection test of Wallaby yesterday ? Was the result correct in your opinion ? Here in Brazil he would be approved, but I agree with german judges criteria. |
by jdiaz1791 on 03 September 2011 - 21:44 |
| Hi, Wallaby and Arex were stepped on by the decoy, Unfortunate, but that is how it is. Yes,I guess Remo will win as it was already Planned. Yerom, Furbo and Vegas just showed best progeny earlier today Imo..... Vegas brought the house down. Its hotter than Miami in here today, Good luck |
jdiaz1791 by Doppelganger on 03 September 2011 - 22:23 |
| Elmo was at Birmingham, he was BOB and Group 2 |
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