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by judron55 on 30 August 2011 - 14:18 |
| Ufo vom Guys Hof bred to Vaya van't Leefdaalhof (a Ruth daughter) produced the Z litter van't Leefdaalhof. There were a few Orry ofspring bred to Ruth...Qinto van Haus Nuyens ....Querry von Haus Antverpa...and the nice Fado son..Ajax von der schwarsen nister.... Ruth was a very nice bitch! Vaya produced very well though limited! |
judron55 by ibso52 on 30 August 2011 - 14:46 |
| I have a Tom daughter. Below is her video. Bonny Von Der Germanenquelle |
ibso52 by DannyJ on 30 August 2011 - 15:17 |
Ron, I hear things that Vito was just a normal dog normal producer(coming from some big name people), but for sure one of the better females I have seen/owned was a Vito daughter. In fact every direct Vito progeny I have had the pleasure to work or see I would rate above average dogs in work and structure was not bad as well. I think vitos structure was better then other Tom sons. |
by TDC on 30 August 2011 - 15:51 |
| Nice female ibso52! How did she produce, I would expect real well given her pedigree! |
TDC by Gustav on 30 August 2011 - 16:13 |
| I imported a Vito daughter, Bora ze Svobodneho Dvora, brother of Bady. She has produced some nice progeny including the dog Bravo that won the AWDF IPO1 nationals at 23 months. |
by judron55 on 30 August 2011 - 17:46 |
| don't you have the Bandit daughter, how is she? Dan...Hi...my Bandit daughter is coming along quite well. She is a tracking machine...loves to bite...plenty of prey drive...and can be nasty when she doesn't get her way...not handler agressive...but pushy and arrogant:-) Gustav...I was looking at Bora and Bady today...Basco and Bona look like nice dogs also! Are you going to breed her again and if so to whom? |
by ibso52 on 30 August 2011 - 17:58 |
| @TDC links below are her progeny Mike Von Der Germanenquelle Maik Von Der Germanenquelle Luna Von Der Germanenquelle |
by mfh27 on 30 August 2011 - 18:10 |
| Judron, I have a Bomber daughter very similar to what you describe. Loves to bite, high high prey drive, and she will fight back if any of the other dogs messes with her or gets to her toy first (she'll scream bloody murder and then harass the toy thief as they bring the toy to me). She takes leash corrections from me but will bite for real if the helper accidentally hurts her or if I flank her for her toy (which I dont do anymore because I dont like flanking, I prefer choking out, not that either sounds good). She's 6 months old and a tiny 40lbs, but our club has made her an honorary malinois. She is little hectic with tracking as she almost has too much food drive, but eventually settles in. |
mfh27 by yellowrose of Texas on 01 September 2011 - 08:50 |
| My partner in crime, has just purchased CUZKO from MelloDee at Germelhaus who has TOM in the bottom half of his pedigree His picture is on her site and the one I have won't load here . http://www.germelhaus.com/C%20litter%20pedigree%205-23-11.htm He is 13 weeks old and rode home calm and when he got out of car, he went ball diving. He has drives and sass and is dominant man on the new homefront. BUT he is a lap dog..lol he wants plenty of loving but is calm and attentive and sleeps all night ,,so far. Jerri trains in the Houston club and Dave Kroyer will be checking little Cuzko out real soon. I posted this on another thread because Jerri was the owner of Dax and COLA who had Drigon in their back grounds under discussion on Koach's thread, that were my breedings out of Gator. A new working boy in the family but at Jerris house not mine. YR |
yellowrose of Texas by Bundishep on 03 September 2011 - 19:17 |
| Steve you mentioned Eros is still alive is he still getting some breedings ? In your opinion do you feel he has been a better producer than Ellute ? |
by steve1 on 04 September 2011 - 14:18 |
| No Eros is no longer Breeding he is 13 years old now as is his brother Ellute. I saw Eros around last November and he looked very well. He has been a great dog in his time a great Champion not only on the Sport Field but as a Producer, Many of his Progeny are working at top level over here yet he did not ever father so many Pups compared to Ellute. A pity you did not bring this up a week ago as i was talking to Ronny his owner Trainer only last Sunday at the Belgian National Championships I could have asked him what he thought about your question, But for me Eros is the best of the two brothers. Steve1 |
steve1 by OGBS on 04 September 2011 - 17:45 |
| Here is a grandaughter that you can buy. |
OGBS by hunger4justice on 05 September 2011 - 13:52 |
| I wonder why they are selling her at 2..she has a wonderful combination of lines on both sides...a GREAT combination, I would say. Hmmmm. |
hunger4justice by steve1 on 05 September 2011 - 18:26 |
| hungerforjustice If you look back on page 3 and look at the Pedigree of Hektor you will see his Pedigree and the one you are refering to which is up for sale are very similar Steve1 |
by yellowrose of Texas on 05 September 2011 - 19:36 |
I like the dog named BRUNO out of that combination... nice attention and pigment..do not know who is the owner or any thing about the work but the picture got my attention.. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=698621 YR |
by Bundishep on 05 September 2011 - 22:04 |
but why Eros better ? Because he threw some great dogs with not as many breedings as Ellute ? Ya i would like to hear Ronny,s take on the Question. An excellent thread to see some great Tom progeny pop up and see where some of them are at. Didnt Ronny win 3 diff world championships with 3 differant dogs? |
by steve1 on 06 September 2011 - 04:59 |
Ronny won the world Championships with 3 dogs but 4 times world Champion, first with TOM then with EROS two times, who is a son of Tom , then with COMO 2010 who is son of EROS, |
by hunger4justice on 06 September 2011 - 15:23 |
| Steve, I did notice that Hektor and the female have similar lines and that would make me wonder why sell her at age 2....That is a dog I would love to have. If I already had her, I would never be parting with her at age 2. (Not criticizing, just wondering) You know I love that Tom, Eros, Como line...You can't argue with success and given the other Tom son, Griff (RIP) and his never quit courage, which you say is also in the Eros lines, you are very lucky to have Hektor and whomever gets that female is also very lucky. |
by Jenni78 on 06 September 2011 - 15:41 |
| Nice lines, no question. The only thing I don't like is that they're very washed out. I'd love to see someone be able to keep killer structure and nice pigment in those lines. Maybe they kept that female to sell at 2, started, figuring they'd get more money for her? She looks like a nicely-built dog, too. |
Jenni78 by steve1 on 06 September 2011 - 17:27 |
| jenni78 Hektor is a real handful now at less than 4 months old. We have stopped him working with the sack after just two weeks, He simply will not release it at this time Jaws clamped tight. Now if you hurt a little Pup of that age as his mouth is tender that could well put him off, not saying it will but you cannot go handling the mouth each time to extract the item better to leave it all alone until he grows a bit and his mouth has toughened up. Regards the colour of the female advertised she is not a very dark in colour. However litter mates of Hektor are very dark indeed, and Hektor is getting darker by the day, look in on here tomorrow and i will post a pic of him now at less than 4 months old, You can see how much he has changed, However he has what it takes to do the job he is wanted for going on the way he is now, I do not think i will be disappointed as he matures. Steve1 |
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