German Shepherd Dog > tom vant leefdaalhof (129 replies)

by kogovsek kennels on 23 August 2011 - 13:49
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Thanks everyone, i have found a kennel i will be going with
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by Jeff Oehlsen on 23 August 2011 - 15:08
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As you might guess, those of us with Leefdaalhof grandsons or sons (only two sons in the U.S. that I know) are very particular about our dogs and we don't know who you are, why you want our dogs, or anything about your kennel, so doubt if you'll get too many PMs unless there is more information given.

This is the kind of shit that has kept us from ever producing our own great studs. So you have a grandson. I saw a daughter that was nothing like her father, a pet. I have not met EVERYONE in EU, but the people I have met just breed their dogs, no big fanfare, no control freak behavior. Doesn't even cost that much for them. 

Guy asks a question and gets blindsided by stupidity. Good grief.

I hope you find what you are looking for. So many people just collect dogs. I cannot tell you how many people I know with really really nice dogs that never bred the dog because there was nothing good enough. Like you know until you breed what will happen. 
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by Ace952 on 23 August 2011 - 16:42
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I couldn't agree more Jeff.
Well put.
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by Bundishep on 23 August 2011 - 20:28
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Hunger... Is one of the 2 sons of Tom you mentioned in the USA Gismo ? Who is the other son ? I have a Gismo girl her drives are off the charts and few have the speed to match her.
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by Bundishep on 23 August 2011 - 20:37
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KK if you dont mind me asking what kennel did you go with ?
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by wanderer on 23 August 2011 - 21:15
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There is a Tom son in Canada, littermate to Bagira.  He is SchH3 and a VERY serious dog.  He has produced well so far as I know.

 
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by wanderer on 23 August 2011 - 21:16
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My Tom granddaughter is so fast on the long bite that it is always a heart gripping fear when I send her.  It takes a very skilled helper to catch her safely. 

Connie D.
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by Bundishep on 23 August 2011 - 22:38
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Do you know the full name of the dog in canada or what city or kennel the dog is out of ?

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by hunger4justice on 24 August 2011 - 13:44
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Gismo is one, owned by Kevin Lanouette in MA, and Önnegårdens Griff, a certified police k9, KKL2 Sch3 FH2,, and named dog hero of the year, for saving his law enforcement masters life on the mean streets is the other.  They hit like a frieght train, don't they? Very serious dogs and very loving toward the handler.
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by steve1 on 24 August 2011 - 13:49
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Gina is a G Grandaughter of Tom but the other combinations of Javir etc make her a terrific prospect. I guess that is why 9 of the top German Shepherd people in the country want to get hold of her, the lastest offer of 25.000 plus Dollars turned down, She is certainly not a dog for a beginner or for the faint hearted she needs a strong handler.
 For a female she is such a powerful dog, she bites and hits like an express train fearless and a dog with rock solid nerves, Personally i have never come across a female Shepherd like her and i am not saying that because she belongs to me, i am very lucky to have come to be her owner
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by GSDPACK on 24 August 2011 - 18:14
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There should be a VERY interresting breeding coming up very soon. Well the breeding took place, now the puppies have to be born. Import breeding, papers will take about 8 months to get.
And no I am not the owner of the dog, or puppies.
Let me know if you want more info I will PM you.

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by Bundishep on 24 August 2011 - 19:17
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The Tom son Eros it amazes me he only shows 105 progeny on this site any one know of any flaws he had and is there Frozen sperm avail from Eros/Elutte brothers? Gismo son of Tom appears to be about 10 now not sure if his owner is breeding him anymore anyone know ? The one dog that was mentioned  Griff the Police dog I think he is in Ohio if I remember correctly,last time i checked the owner said he is retired from breeding. Steve that one female you mentioned can you share her pedigree and anyone else with Progeny of Tom that hit super hard and fast.
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by steve1 on 25 August 2011 - 08:02
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The female above is my Dog Gina she is Explosive over the ground and i have never seen a Female hit so hard I guess that is why they all want to get there hands on her for that reason.
Her Kennel name is Gina vom Bonauer Wald on this data base
Three Children of Tom over here are Dax vom Kandonckhof,
His full Sister Diva vom Kandonckhof i expect to see her competing this coming Sunday in the Belgian National Championship
Another son of Tom is Ares vom Wolfsblut in Germany he is the father of my Puppy Hektor when he was mated to a daughter of Eros von der Mohnwiese so the Pup is a grandson and G.Gson of Tom, Gina is also from the same Dam as Hektor daughter of Eros
There are a lot of Eros Children working at top level over here and from Ellute
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by SportGSD on 25 August 2011 - 10:35
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wow it sounds like there are not many Tom sons in Canada, but I know there is one in Toronto from the same kennel as my dog, von Heksterhorst.
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by johan77 on 25 August 2011 - 14:11
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Don´t know if tom and ellute/eros is so much better than other alternatives, but this dog is a tom grandson and has many litters by the swedish army and also some private breeders, so far his offspring have shown the best results in the selectiontests the army uses, more than 50% of the tested litters past the tests, and they have used about 60 different studs in their breedingprogram, so compared to many others he has obviously done well.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=473388
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by judron55 on 25 August 2011 - 14:19
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please let's not forget the females that these Tom sons are being bred to....:-)
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by judron55 on 25 August 2011 - 14:25
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Do you know the full name of the dog in canada

Basko vom Röhnsaler Bach  
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by TDC on 25 August 2011 - 17:12
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steve1 
I believe you and I have very much the same likes in dogs.  I have two bitches one being a Javir daughter and the other being a Ellute daughter.  The Javir daughter has just had a litter up pups sired by Wask vom Eifelgrund and the Ellute daughter is due to be having a litter in less than a week and the sire is Hudson von der kalten Hardt.
I'm going to be holding pups back from both breedings for what I hope will be very goog future breed stock combining the two lines together.  Both females are exceptional females that bring different things to the table. 

I just don't think you can go wrong when stacking pedigree with dogs such as Karn vom Fegalhof, Tom van't Leefdaalhof, Yoshy, Tim von der Abfuhr, Troll, Marc vom Herkulesblick.
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by judron55 on 25 August 2011 - 18:16
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That's Wasko...right TDC?
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by TDC on 25 August 2011 - 18:34
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Yea Wasko!  Hell I can't spell.
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