German Shepherd Dog > How much would pay for a trained dog? (17 replies)
How much would pay for a trained dog?
by LanesShepherds on 02 August 2011 - 22:05
|Would you spend $250,000 Stay pass the ad|
by Donnerstorm on 03 August 2011 - 00:32
|WOW! I seriously live in the wrong part of the country!!! Gotta say I love the dog tracking yet his nose didn't hit the ground once!|
by lovejags on 03 August 2011 - 03:53
|i wouldn't pay that much money for anything on four legs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You've got to be kidding!|
by Ace952 on 03 August 2011 - 15:41
|There were 2 threads on this already.|
I wouldn't but hey I ain't got that type of money to burn either.
Dog is worth what soemone is willing to pay for it. As long as it can work as advertised and the customer is happy...what business is it of mine.
by Bob McKown on 03 August 2011 - 16:21
I believe P.T. Barnum said it best "There is a sucker born every minute"
by VonIsengard on 03 August 2011 - 16:41
|It's true, Bob. Like the kind who pay $3000 for puppies from untitled dogs with disqualifying faults.|
by LadyFrost on 03 August 2011 - 17:22
|LaneS what would you pay?...or charge...since i think this is where it's going.....|
if according to your site (copy/paste below) a puppy w/ light ob trainning is worth up to $4,500....what would you actually charge for a fully trained GSD?
a bit confusing when you list your 4 year old at $500.00....
Puppy Prices: My puppies generally cost $2,000.00 (akc pet registration) dollars. All other puppies sold (with full akc breeding registration) will cost $3,000.00--no distinction between males or females in price. Total price of puppy is due before delivery. If you would like to take your puppy home the same day Please bring your balance or payment in CASH. All older pups 4 -5 months with light obedience/house training and hip x-rays already done (good vets can find HD by four months) will cost at least $4,500.00.
by noddi on 03 August 2011 - 20:30
|Lanes Shepherds,hello i,m an ex gsd showline breeder n exhibitor here in the UK.I,m surprised that your vet can find HD in a 4 month gsd,is your vet on the OFA/PENNHIP panel of scrutineers?I ask this as many vets over here tell their clients that their puppy has HD n must undergo corrective surgery.Am glad to see tho.that many do phone the breeders of their pups for advice.Many of these gsds have gone on to have their hips scored n got excellent results,so IMHO.i personally wouldnt take a vets opinion,i would always wait n x ray at 12mths.onwards n have the plates sent for scoring.My own vet years ago,advised a male of mine hips didnt look good,results were 5-3,a few yrs.later a bitch was x rayed,he says excellent hips,results 8-8.He wasnt very accurate,now was he????As for the prices of your pups....i,m sorry but i wouldnt pay $3000 for an 8 week old pup,nor $4500 for a 4/5 month pup.Probably wouldnt even pay that for a 12mth.top show winning gsd either.To be honest i,m rather an old skinflint,except for wot i pay for my dogs wellbeing..ie food/treats/home comforts etc as they are my babies.Carole Spelman Rheinmeister gsds (UK)|
by Red Sable on 03 August 2011 - 21:06
"Like the kind who pay $3000 for puppies from untitled dogs with disqualifying faults. "
by Ace952 on 03 August 2011 - 21:26
|This is getting ugly and getting ugly fast.|
Leave it to LF to go on and stir the pot.
by yellowrose of Texas on 03 August 2011 - 21:37
good vets can find HD by four months) will cost at least $4,500.00.
quoted by OP
THIS is unbelievable , the poster makes a statement... GOOD VETS CAN FIND HD BY 4 months///
really......I am open for discussion on this....
YEAH< I had a vet tell a good customer at 4 months old , that her pup she just bought from me has HD,, and his ears will never stand...
Here is what we do...charge &75.00 to tape his ears
and the Bottle of GLUCOSIMINE CONDR> IS $65.00 and that will get you started.
SHOT is `35.00 for Rabies, and examine
$12.50 to clean his ears, that do not stand completely yet,
$`12.50 to trim his nails
My customer left to the parking lot in tears..THANK GOODNESS she didn't buy this VETS diagnosis.
THE PUP HAS fabulous ears and always has and will
HIS Hips are OFA GOOD and he is one fabulous GSD that I produced.
WHEN did we find out we could FIND HD in a gsd pup at 4 months old..I heard about the testing in California a while back genetically that may lead to a hint
IS THAT STATEMENT TRUE OR FALSE:
SHall we make a new thread??
by VeroHera on 04 August 2011 - 01:10
|People who pay that price are the king of people asking on this site "Can we reverse spaying" or something like that...|
by GSDguy08 on 04 August 2011 - 03:16
|I paid $250,000 for a dog once. It pooped gold nuggets, ran errands, mowed the lawn, fed the other dogs, did the dishes, cleaned the house, and made all of the business calls for me. I seriously don't get how dumb someone can be to spend that much money for a dog. There are so many dogs, probably nicer dogs, for much much cheaper. The bite on the black/tan dog in the video didn't look that hard or full either. I've seen much nicer dogs for a lot cheaper price tag.|
by Jeff Oehlsen on 04 August 2011 - 07:19
|You can find HD in a 4 month old pup. |
This is true............ sorta. If the pups hips are a wreck, then you will be able to see this at 4 months. So, technically, it is not a false statement.
I got to get better at all this advertisement stuff. HA HA HA HA I would rather never sell a puppy than just be full of shit. We should be able to tag people's ads with a BULLSHIT sticker. If there is more than _______ amount of BULLSHIT stickers, then people know it isn't some hater.
I got that idea from an old Gallahger gag. He had made up these plungers with DUMMY or something like that on them, and anyone with 5 or more got pulled over by the police and given a ticket. : P
by Stumpywop on 04 August 2011 - 08:58
|My bitch had to have her hips x-rayed at 8 months old (August 2010) when her right hip fully dislocated out on the training field. I saw the x-rays and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see when bone is malformed (what there is of it) and that with so littel cartilage (bones were rubbing on bones in places) that she'll most likely have problems for a long time to come.|
My vet told me she'd need both hips replaced once she was fully grown.
she now has all kinds of supplements added to her food, she does exercise in a way that suits her physical limitations (so obviously no agility, silly jumps etc) and I've worked very hard on building up all her muscles at her rear eand. Both back legs are now extremely strong and she can run and play wiht the best fo them. I do stop her from overdoing things maybe before I need to but I will NEVER forget hearing her scream when her hip pcame out of place. I know that pain from when my left knee dislocates and for it to happen to a pup who doesn't understand what's going on is heart breaking.
Still, she's had x-rays recently (about 2 months ago) and yes her hips are still horrendous. But her muscle strength has helped a lot, she's had no more dislocations or subluxations and if she does require surgery at some point, I know she is physically strong enought o recover sooner rather than later.
I'm not medically qualified but I would hazard a guess and suggest that there can be some inclination of HD at a young age, even if it can't be diagnosed conclusively.
by Stumpywop on 04 August 2011 - 09:02
|Furthermore, isn't part fo the enjoyment of having a young pup encompassede in training them yourself and building bond with the pup?|
I woudl expect to pay less for a 4/5 month old than an 8/10 week old pup because I would wonder what's wrong with the dog that it hasn't already been sold. I may consider paying the same amount as was paid for the other litter mates but certainly no more just because a breeder has taught the dog to sit!
So, LaneS what do you mean by basic obedience? Over here at least, my oldest GSD would be considered to have done advanced obedience but only as far as pets are concerned. He's nowhere near the standard required for highh level competition obedience. So everyone has their own ideas of what it is. Can you elaborate please?
by Donnerstorm on 05 August 2011 - 06:33
|GSDguy: where do I sign up for one of those dogs??;) Stumpy: I would expect to pay more for an older pup from a reputable breeder. Notice I said REPUTABLE, bc those are the breeders that have taught him more than just sit. They have started the puppy sack, they have started them on tracking, the dog has been socialized etc.. The reason I would expect to pay more is they have more invested in the pup, food, vets, bedding, and countless hours of working with the pup. I also would not automatically assume something was wrong with the pup. Could be the right owner hasn't come along. Could be a very high drive and hard dog, and the only people coming around are inexperienced, or just want a pet dog. Could be that everyone that came around wanted a higher drive dog and that one was more laid back. There are a lot of reasons the pup could still be there. Could even be something as simple as the people who were going to buy him backed out for one reason or another that had nothing to do with the pup. Sometimes There is one in the litter that is just a dynamo and the breeder will hold him back so she can train with the pup. Lot's of reasons to have one held back. Now if there had been no training etc then I wouldn't pay extra either. Then again how many breeders are going to tell you they are trying to charge more for one than they did the others. Never when I bought a dog have I even thought to ask what the other pups went for.|
by Stumpywop on 05 August 2011 - 09:25
|Thanx Donnerstorm. You're absolutely right - I hadn't thought of those reasons for a pup to still be with it's breeder at a few months old. I was always of the opinino that a breeder would have a waiting list where demand far outstrips supply so there would always be someone next in line wanting a dog - although as you say, if it's not the right owner or right pup for a specific home, the breeder is right to hold onto the pup (as well as because of all the other reasons you state).|
But if a breeder I went to had claimed they had trained the pup I would ask for a demonstration of wehat the pup can do at 4/5 months old. I wouldn't expect miracles because I believe it's better to take longer with training and ahve the dog love what they do than for it to be a chore where targets HAVE to be reached. I also believe that GSDs don't really come into their own until 2-3 years old. Then they really seem to fly at whatever they attempt.
Of course this is only my experience. Everyone else will have differing opnions.