German Shepherd Dog > from bite to release (15 replies)

from bite to release
by myret on 22 July 2011 - 19:13
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I just watched this video off a breeder or so that he is  playing with a pup and what good do you think you get out  off pinching the dog to release

to  get the dog more eager to get hold off the toy , like when you chooke them off a bite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZwPNleOM-s&feature=related 




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by Siantha on 22 July 2011 - 19:17
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we at my club flank our dogs to get them to out it teaches them to out quickly usualy because they want to turn and bite what is going after them is what i was told. i perfer flanking than the chokeing but if you have a relly high drive dog like the mali in our club you kinda have to do both or you will never get the dog to learn out.
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by myret on 22 July 2011 - 19:21
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yes but mals use to be so handler soft

Have not seen this here but where I trained with my male when he was young they told me to chooke the dogs off that to gave them that they even more wanted the prey thing, does the pinch do the same ?

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by Siantha on 22 July 2011 - 19:25
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i know about malis haha now they are terrorists XD  literaly  i havent noticed a difference in the young female im working eather way i started her on the choke but she would chew on the toy or sleeve before she would out with the flank she instantly drops it.
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by Siantha on 22 July 2011 - 19:25
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and ill take that puppy XD
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by myret on 22 July 2011 - 19:46
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I have never tryed to pich my female to release she will only realese the ball iff I have another ball ,have trained that much but she thinks that all balls or prey are hers to be and that she owns it
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by steve1 on 23 July 2011 - 04:55
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What he did to the Pup for it to release was okay nothing wrong really, However i was not impressed by the way he picked the pup up on the end of the tug or whatever he was using and lifted it in the air At 8 weeks old its teeth are not set, baby teeth they may be and very small you do not want to damage those in any way, and i only watched about 3 minutes of it that was enough, Overall not impressed that youngster has been worked on specially to try and impress future buyers so no it is not the way it normally goes and the Puppy is a fair sized Pup at 8 weeks old, I thought my Hektor was a large Puppy now coming up to 9.5 weeks old but he is still not as big as that Pup
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by troublelinx on 23 July 2011 - 15:15
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That surely is a heafty puppy.  I dont see any faults in the dog.  Steve1 it sounds like you are mainly speaking to the manner inwhich the pup is being imprinted, not the quality of the pup, correct?
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by steve1 on 23 July 2011 - 15:49
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Nothing wrong at all with the Puppy, Just i was not impressed by letting the Pup hold on and lifting the pup with its weight on its baby teeth at 8 weeks old. as i said the baby teeth are not yet fully grown and the gums are soft damage the Baby teeth is not at all good at 8 weeks old, however everyone to there own not something i would do with Hektor although he grabs a tug and Ball etc no way would i lift him off the ground with his weight holding onto a tug or ball he would hang on but i think more of the Pups teeth at this stage,
I let him grab and hold it and pull away then drop the toy and get him to carry it around on his own,
Already Hektor sits between my legs i am sitting on a stool he watches my moving hands which with a treat in each hand i move the hands back and forth in a walking motion the Pup sits and watches my hands, The instance his eyes look at my eyes i give him a treat and say Yes, left or right hand makes no difference, He also Sits and Downs on Command, but does not stay down for more than 15-20 seconds but its coming,
As he gets bigger i will sit on a chair and do the same thing and treats will be dropped from my mouth arms still moving back and forth
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by duke1965 on 23 July 2011 - 17:27
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im curious as of the current state of that puppy , he must be 3 years old now
im not impressed by preybarracudas , as dogs need much more than prey alone to be great dogs
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by sable59 on 23 July 2011 - 17:51
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THE SIZE OF THIS PUP IS HUGE. MY PUPS AT 8 WEEKS ARE 12#OR SO. I AGREE WITH STEVE ON THE WAY THE YOUNG PUP IS RAISED OF THE GROUND. IT IS I AM SURE ,USED TO PROMOTE  HIS DOGS. WONDER IF HE DOES ALL OF THEM THE SAME WAY?
 I DON'T TEACH MY DOGS TO OUST AS MY CLIENTS WANT THEM TO BITE AND HOLD NOT HOLD AND BRRK.
DUKE, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
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by duke1965 on 23 July 2011 - 18:12
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many people like to see this in a pup , but Im curious if they turn out to be better sportdogs or better at anything when they grow up

back on topic , the way to teach te out varys from dog to dog , for the one in the clip I think that is the best way , choking him would be a  long struggle

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by myret on 23 July 2011 - 19:14
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I must say that I like this pup and I don't know if that is the typical gsd pup don't think so
I like prey dog alot with a litle serious ness but most prey

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by Brandi on 24 July 2011 - 02:36
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IMO, some SchH people get too caught up and just don't the puppy be a puppy.  If you want to work a dog like the way this little fella was worked, buy an adult dog.
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by steve1 on 24 July 2011 - 15:00
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Yes, that is correct. I teach the Pups everything i can right from the day after i get them at 8 weeks old, like sitting and downing on command and looking at my face when i give it a treat not at the hands that hold the treat, Plus we play a little with the rag, all this my latest Pup is doing at 9.5 weeks old and i make it play time, but never would i lift it in the air when it is holding onto the rag at that age, They will of course most Puppies will do that it proves absolutely nothing of what the Pup has or what it will be, However it has a good chance of messing up the teeth of the Pup and indeed its future bite etc, If something happened and it caused the Puppy a lot of Pain who knows never worth the risk as i said it did not impress me
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by myret on 24 July 2011 - 18:28
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I agree but I  still think its ok to test the pups , beutiful dog on your avatar

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