German Shepherd Dog > Odd breed seen doing schutzhund and atually earning titles (31 replies)
Odd breed seen doing schutzhund and atually earning titles
by momosgarage on 27 June 2011 - 17:22
|I've heard of corgi's, pitbulls and miniature schnauzer's successfully doing schutzhund. Has anyone seen any other breeds not usually associated with schutzhund who actually have titles? The corgi's and schnauzer's don't surprise me too much as they do have working ability. However seeing my in-laws feisty Maltese, got me thinking some breeds may have more to them then is usually assumed. As far as I can see Maltese are pretty fearless and in the distant past were claimed to have been used to disrupt cavalry charges and were paired with rottweilers as guard dogs. If any of these historical stories are true the full sized Maltese's might be able to do it (I am not talking about the minature or teacup Maltese varieties).|
by Siantha on 27 June 2011 - 17:25
|i know my pomeranian would gladly do the work hes crazyer than my shepherds. and also when i was younger my moms yorki soo could have done it. but i have seen a terrior get a schh1 and mastiffs can do it. i always wanted someone who had a kangal to put a title on one but i think the helper would have a heart attack.... 200 lb dog that looks like a shepherd the size of a great dane haha. such wonderful dogs tho.|
by Psycht on 27 June 2011 - 17:52
|My old ACD had his SchA and was trained in protection through the 3 but a previous weight pulling injury to the shoulders made me retire him early. There are several SchH/IPO 3 ACDs in europe. I believe there was a SchH 3 Lab but I could be wrong.|
I think the size would be an issue for a maltese to do bitework. My small ACD girl at around 30 pounds and 16.5 inches does the drive literally just hanging in the air on the sleeve. The correct size for a maltese is between 4 to 7 pounds with 6 being preferred. The sleeve would be a pretty big mouthful for a 6 pound dog to hold on through the drive. Never mind retrieving a 1.5 pound dumbbell for the 1 :-)
by LadyFrost on 27 June 2011 - 18:15
|Siantha do you by any chance know what is the difference between kangal dog and kavkazskaya ovcharka? I get that the hair is long vs short but I had seen kavkazskaya ovcharka with short hair....to tell you the truth if i seen 2 dogs next to each other i would not be able to tell a difference and my family have had kavkaz ovcharki.... hmm..this may be a bit off topic but it would lead back to it if there is no difference aside from the name.|
by momosgarage on 27 June 2011 - 18:15
|Psycht, sorry I didn't mention ACD earlier. I have actually seen a titled one in person. My opinion is that they are equivilant to Corgi's, miniature schnauzer's and other medium sized herding and sporting dogs. The Maltese's my in-laws have are 10-12lbs. Yes, not within the 3-7lbs AKC breed standard that we have today, but a whole lot closer to what the Europeans had originally. There truly are some "big" Maltese's out there, but still less than half the size of a ACD.|
by muttlover25 on 27 June 2011 - 18:32
|A friend of mine got a BH with her Greyhound. Thought that was impressive!|
by vom ost see on 27 June 2011 - 18:57
|labrador..."CODY THE BOY WONDER,SCH-3"very nice o/b,good bitework,tracking machine,i think the "hf" was HARRY WAGNER. very entertaining routine.|
by vonissk on 27 June 2011 - 19:14
|The trainer I worked with in my PPD club had a ScH3 Chessie. The dog was well known and had been written up in several magazines and online articles. When we talked about this before someone told me he had been written up in the UScA nagazine, I watched him work and he was awesome.|
by BoCRon on 27 June 2011 - 21:15
|We had a lady in our old SchH club who got a B on her standard poodle. She was all ready to do the 1 when the dog badly broke a canine tooth. It was sooo sad because she had worked so hard and the dog probably would have gotten a decent score.|
We work our ACDs but haven't ever tried to title one. There is also a guy in our club who has a hysterical little French Bull Dog who gets all kind of crunk when she sees the bad guy. She just throws herself at the fence sounding like she's ready to do serious battle. So one day we decided to let him send her on the bad guy. She totally flew across the field and leapt as high as she could (about 2 feet) and was hanging off the sleeve. Everyone in the club was crying we were laughing so hard. If he brings her out again I swear I'm going to video it this time. Apparently she had been paying attention when dad took "the other" dog out onto the field LOL.
Of course there is Claudia Romard and Mr. Murphy...such an awesome hold and bark!
by Jyl on 27 June 2011 - 21:22
|I watched someone at a trial I was competing at doing a SchH1 on a rough coated Collie... I have seen border collies do bitework also.|
I have heard of the Chessie that you are talking about too.. he was SchH3 IPO3 (if I remember correctly).. I remember reading about him in one of the SchH USA magazines. He was an impressive dog from what I hear. If I remember there was a picture of him doing a hold and bark in the magazine.
by vonissk on 27 June 2011 - 22:46
|Hey Jyl, I remember we talked about him on another thread. I knew you told me he had been written up but I couldn't remember it was you or I would have credited you above. Yeah and the trainer/owner's name was Bill but I can't remember his last name. But as I said before I also read about him in both a paper and an online mag. He was an awesome boy to watch work............|
by Jyl on 27 June 2011 - 22:58
|Hey there, one of these days when I have time I will look thru my USA magazines and see if I can find the article.. If I do I will post it..|
by Ramage on 27 June 2011 - 23:58
|Didn't someone post a video of a Golden Retriever doing bitework?|
by missyjord on 28 June 2011 - 00:17
|I know of a rat terrier that has earned ScH1. actually I have seriously considered training my little rattie in it as well, only because he would absolutely love it. The only issue would be he is only 9 pounds so the retrieves might be a Tad difficult. :)|
by Sunsilver on 28 June 2011 - 00:50
|Claudia Romard came close to titling her JRT, Mr. Murpy, in Schutzhund, however, he couldn't do some of obedience work due to his small size (probably the retrieve?)|
I really, really LOVE this video. He is so happy as he's hanging off the sleeve with his stubby little tail wagging a mile a minute!
The helper is Claudia's husband.
by vonissk on 28 June 2011 - 01:19
|Jyl that would be awesome. Thank you.|
by BoCRon on 28 June 2011 - 01:46
|Sunsilver, great minds and all that...|
See my post 6 above yours ;).
by missyjord on 28 June 2011 - 03:00
|That video was awesome! Thanks for posting it!|
by judron55 on 28 June 2011 - 13:29
|I did helper work for a cane corso that was titled to a sch1 this past weekend at our club trial....also a small...I'm not sure what he was got his BH and I have it on tape:-) I'll post later!|
by pinkbitesleeve on 30 June 2011 - 03:56
|I'm not sure how common it is to see Boxers doing Schutzhund, but I saw one get its SchH3 at a trial I was at just last month. First one I've seen actively titling. She got an award, if I recall correctly, too. Can't remember if it was High Protection or High in Trial. It was a small club trial, I think only four or five dogs, but she was still nice to watch. Such drive on that dog!|