German Shepherd Dog > what happened to the real german shepherds? (126 replies)
what happened to the real german shepherds?
by smith on 19 June 2011 - 19:04
|I was watching older videos of GSD'S and they were alot more protective and serious. I was at a training resort checking it out and the dogs there were sport only if i jumped at a dog it would back up and not even bark, and he was supposed to be their "best dog".The first thing people ask is does your dog have a title. I guess im more into protection and police work. I'm trying to find a old style real working dog not a sleeve only dog! and its crazy how everyine is wanting the roach back p***y dogs thats making the breed go to shit!|
by destiny4u on 19 June 2011 - 19:41
there are a lot of good lines still left that are real serious good dogs but not too serious to the point where u cant take them out in public and not just czech still west german and belgium has lots of good working lines left i think the key is working lines
by Duderino on 19 June 2011 - 19:45
|Sounds to me like you're the reason insurance companies are refusing homeowner's insurance policies to people that own German Shepherds. BTW, what gives you the right to"jump" at someone's dog?|
by myret on 19 June 2011 - 19:50
|how about the tiekerhook kennel or Pixner kennel they are making some fine dogs more like the old type gsd but still with prey drive but not just prey|
by destiny4u on 19 June 2011 - 19:53
|please dont ever jump at someones dog|
u dont know it could be a young dog under 2 years old, it could be just a pet or a rescue that is there for fun not a breeding dog or anything special, great way to get yourself in a fight with a club or a person lol
if the dogs were well bred older dogs that had a nice foundation and backed up and didnt bark when this man jumped at them that would be pretty sad though
i wish u were closer to me id let u do that to my dog all u wanted with no equip :P
by Doppelganger on 19 June 2011 - 20:25
|I would be proud to say my dog did not react if you 'jumped' at it. What if a child did that and the dog bit it?|
by destiny4u on 19 June 2011 - 21:02
|seems dogs view screaming jumping children as lesser non threating humans that cant do anything|
i just know that if a bunch of kids screamming and running being loud my dog all the time she ignores them but if a man or a bunch of men did that exact samething she would go on guard
i always wonder how they knew they seem to act diff around women also like they dont treat women the same as men it might be just my dog thugh im not sure maybe because in protection its always a man that acts as decoy helper ?
by steve1 on 19 June 2011 - 21:26
|Are you looking at the right dogs, for one if you had jumped at my Dogs you would not know what had hit you. and as far as being roached backs that they ain't.|
And again if you had jumped at my dogs anyway after it had bit you i would have personally taken your head off your shoulders
by Ibrahim on 19 June 2011 - 21:45
|I salute you Steve, that was real good and Smith deserved it (with all due respect to you Smith).|
by SportySchGuy on 19 June 2011 - 22:40
|You people are all f&*^(%d in the head!|
If someone jumped at your dog then you should tell it to leave it and if someone gets bit that only jumped at your dog it is your fault and due to your poor handling skills. You are liable and who lets their dog bite someone for only jumping at their dog? Whackos!
Having said that only an idiot/moron jumps at GSDs. LMAO!
Now if someone jumped at your GSD and ruined it just by doing that LOL......well thats pretty funny...I don't care who ya are thats funny right there!!!
As for old style GSDs ....I think they were almost as screwed up as they are today. So yeah all of ya are f$#%%D in the head!
Now someone who fights someone else for only jumping at their dog??? Hmmm? Counsleing maybe? LMAO! :)
by VonIsengard on 19 June 2011 - 22:57
|"If someone jumped at your dog then you should tell it to leave it and if someone gets bit that only jumped at your dog it is your fault and due to your poor handling skills. You are liable and who lets their dog bite someone for only jumping at their dog? Whackos!"|
Leave it? You're watching too much Victoria Stillwell.
Sounds like you've never had a complete idiot take you by surprise with your dog before. Lucky you. Can't say I'd ever "let" my dog bite someone but if they made a fast, menacing motion toward my dog and got too close it's their damn fault. Too bad the law doesn't see it that way.
Years ago I had some horse's ass come up behind my PPD trained bitch, get down and hug her from behind, loudly exclaiming, "I LOVE german shepherds!". I did not see it coming and had no idea someone could be so stupid. Her eyes went instantly black, those pupils dilated so fast and the dipstick never noticed her stiffening up. Thank god for good obedience, sit means sit and she didn't act- if I'd hauled the guy to his feet a few moments later he might still bear a token of her affection on his face.
So was my dog a "p***y"? I call it well trained, especially when it saved me a lawsuit. Now, I wouldn't have a dog with lesser control out in public in the first place, so let that be a lesson to anyone whose dog is still in training and doesn't have that control yet.
by SportySchGuy on 19 June 2011 - 23:09
|Yes, it is still your fault for not being aware of what is going on around you. Being taken by surprise is no excuse at all. Your dog...your responsibility.|
by TingiesandTails on 20 June 2011 - 00:03
|....a smart dog knows if the jump is a threat or playtime...|
by VonIsengard on 20 June 2011 - 00:23
|Precisely. A responsible owner has control, and thankfully I did. It was still not that knuckleheads place to come up and hug my German shepherd.|
by destiny4u on 20 June 2011 - 01:12
|von which person is more stupid the one u met or the one i did lol|
in pet smart i was shopping and a guy who worked there asked me what my dogs name was when i told him he was holding a broom then he quickly loomed over her in a threatening way and tried to kiss her on the lips while holding a broom i stopped him though and he said sorry and felt stupid
usually if the person is friendly and its in public though my dog would probably like the attention but the way that guy loomed over her with a broom put her on guard but she didnt go off i could tell she was thinking about it though, i didnt let him get close tho and told him to let her sniff his hand first
by VonIsengard on 20 June 2011 - 02:10
|Destiny, sadly, we have to idiot-proof our dogs nowadays. It's part of the responsibility of owning a protective breed. My anecdote was only was of many, many acts of mind numbing stupidity I've dealt with over the years.|
by troublelinx on 20 June 2011 - 03:39
I would think that it would be pretty easy to find a gsd that would react when jumped at. Among other qualities I like dogs that will fire up bite and holdon to a person that is totally non agressive only because you gave him the command. A threatening person may infact be talking to you calmly to hand over your wallet.
by steve1 on 20 June 2011 - 05:22
What an idiot you are, If the Dogs back is turned away and yours as well and you jump at us from behind, what reaction would you expect from both dog and owner not the one you are talking about
Take me for instance a couple of years ago i whist i was on a weekend trip to Blackpool, England i was attacked from behind by two Guys,
The first i knew when my face was rammed against a metal Pole holding the stop go light as i stood there waiting to cross over, Now what was i supposed to do eventually turn round and ask them why they did it if they had given me the chance which they did not intend to do,
Or fight back of which i did breaking the nose of one and fracturing his jaw. The other one ran.
If i had just had the time to ask them what they were doing would i have shown strength of character and would i have been in control of myself then.
As it did turn out then to you i was suffering from weak nerves and out of Control to react as i did.
All i can say that i am glad my Dogs are not like yours and that i am NOT like you
And before you may ask why i never heard footsteps behind me i did, However i was going to a pigeon show that Sunday morning and walking from my Hotel to the Venue i guessed it was other Fanciers doing the same as i walking down to the Show to save a high Taxi fare so i never turned round to see. You would not expect Jerks like these two in broad daylight
by Jeff Oehlsen on 20 June 2011 - 06:20
|Quote: I was at a training resort checking it out and the dogs there were sport only if i jumped at a dog it would back up and not even bark, and he was supposed to be their "best dog".|
This is a good example of why people freak out about having new people work their dog. I have had many similar experiences, and I am not ever sure what these people are thinking when they do stuff like this without asking. I look at it like this, I am working my dog in sport. If I was playing basketball with you, and decided to pull your shirt over your head and start wailing on you, is that how it should work ? We are playing basketball and not hockey, same as if I tackled you.
Now if we were playing football and I tackled you, then all is good, as that is how the game is played.
I am really not trying to create a police dog when I am training. I am just trying to get the exercises in the dogs head correctly. I am TRAINING, not TESTING. So maybe that is where the confusion you are feeling comes in. People are TRAINING their dogs not TESTING their dogs, and the sport they are TRAINING in, doesn't require people jumping at the dog, then the dog bites.
I have a dog that you can jump at if you want to, he would be more than glad to bite you. Is that what you were looking for ? To get bit ?
by Bob McKown on 20 June 2011 - 11:42
Every one wants a BIG MEAN NASTY GSD till it comes up the leash on them then it,s a psycho and needs put down.