German Shepherd Dog > Black Sable GSD kennel ALPINEK9 (70 replies)
Black Sable GSD kennel ALPINEK9
by storm266 on 10 June 2011 - 06:09
I'm new to the forum. I would like to replace my past away GSD.
I live in Canada. I have experience with german shepherd but in my area the breedders use mostly German Show line (Black & tan Black and red color). I love them but I would like something different.
The dog is really to be use in a familly home context. I have a 3 year old dauther and another one is coming in a month.
So basically no shutzund , no breeding and no competion. I just want a familly dog that will become another familly member and will protect us.
What I really like is the black & sable color look(see picture). This color is really more rare in my area. To be honest I've never seen one in my life. But I find them so beautiful. With the researh I did this color seems to be a lot more use with the German Working line. Sometimes people use DDR or CZECH term I think.
I found a breeder : http://www.alpinek9.com/index.html
Honestly on the web site everything looks great. The guys seems to have a lot of knowledge. However it's too far away so I will not be able to visit the kennel. Air plane shipping will be the only option.
So I would like to have some opinion on that kennels and his owner Hans. I want to be sure before sending a good amount of money to somewhere whitout any visit so it's why I would like an external opinion. On the site they talk about 1800$ for a pupies+ shipping. Is it a fair price?
Honestly I think it's not that bad. For the puppie I would like to stay before shipping between 1000-2000$ US. Is it realistic for what I want?
Any other suggestion of kennels are welcome too. I don't mind importing from Germany or CZECH as long as the kennels has a great reputation.
Thanks for all your help and advice.
Photo Removed -SPK9
by Ibrahim on 10 June 2011 - 07:18
|AlpineK9 = very good working line dogs, Hans is a very nice person, knowlegable and reliable. Best is you explain to him your need and he will advise whether he has a right puppy for you in his breeding program or not, moreover he likes to help and offers useful advice, talking to him you gain, you don't loose. Good luck.|
P.s: I don't think it is correct to call AlpineK9 as Black Sable GSD kennel as most if not all good breeders focus on quality of dog rather than the color. I agree though that dark sable is a beautiful GSD color, I have one myself.
by judron55 on 10 June 2011 - 10:43
|the dog in your message is Bandit vom Wolfsheim...sire to my pup!|
by hejnye on 10 June 2011 - 10:58
|I'm sure Hans can help you find the right GSD for your family.|
by frankm205 on 10 June 2011 - 11:18
|I have a puppy from Hans he is very nice but I would say slightly above average. Nothing special, just a nice dog. Worth 2,000 with the shipping?..........Probably not at this point. Hans is a good guy to deal with and has a good reputation.|
by eichenluft on 10 June 2011 - 12:12
|The dog pictured is my dog V-Bandit v Wolfsheim, he is not at Alpine K9 but is here in PA at Eichenluft Working German Shepherds. I also took that picture, so would you please remove it as it is not in context to my own program, dog or kennel and it is in violation of copyright.|
by unclemick on 10 June 2011 - 13:11
|Sent you a PM.|
by clc29 on 10 June 2011 - 13:42
|Seriously Molly...........This person says hey I love the color of this dog (Bandit) and all you have to say is remove the picture you are violating my copyright?|
You could have said......Thank You...... that is my dog.....and offered to help and educate her.
by clc29 on 10 June 2011 - 13:59
Welcome to the board.
The black sable color is truly a beautiful color but........color is not the focus with the truly knowledgeable and reputable breeder.
The really good breeder raises dogs that are healthy (are without genetic defects), have great temperaments, and will stand behind the puppies they sell.
I do not have any personal experience with Hans at Alpine K9 but have heard many good things about his dogs and himself. I agree with Ibrahim talk to Hans and explain your needs.
You might give the general where are you are located in Canada. There are many good breeders along the upper US boarder states.
Good Luck in your search.
by VKGSDs on 10 June 2011 - 14:07
|I think the issue with the picture is that the user uploading the picture to this site without permission. It's one thing to hotlink or provide a link to Molly's site but another to save a picture and upload it somewhere else without permission. Seems inconsequential but as someone who is a dog photographer it gets really old, really fast. When I do events/shows I give owners photos of their dog for free, all they have to do is ASK.|
by clc29 on 10 June 2011 - 14:11
|I know but.....I'll bet this person just saw the picture some where and thought that's pretty and grabbed it.|
Otherwise I think she would have contacted Molly and said I love the color of your dog and asked about puppies.
by karen forbes on 10 June 2011 - 14:25
I don't know anything about Alpine K9-but there are many good Canadian breeders
by Ace952 on 10 June 2011 - 16:07
|clc29...good point. Could of made a sale right there.|
by GSDPACK on 10 June 2011 - 16:31
Hans will take care of you. I am not sure where in Canada you live but there are some breeders that focus on WL.
I dont know if this is in violation of the rules here but if it is, remove it I will send the OP a PM.
this kennel is in Canada. Maybe close enough for you to visit. Maybe not I dont know.
But again, Hans will take care of you so you are in good hands.
by Red Sable on 10 June 2011 - 16:56
|Wow, I'd have been honoured had someone chosen my dog as an example. Hmph.|
Well, honestly, I think there are far better looking examples of dark sables anyway.
Rookie comes to mind. Much nicer head. I hope Kim doesn't mind me posting him. :)
by judron55 on 10 June 2011 - 17:14
|Hope this doesn't turn into a bashing session....Bandit is producing some nice pups. There are plenty of excellent breeders in Canada....one of my favorites is Carmspack....!|
by eichenluft on 10 June 2011 - 17:27
|Bandit is producing excellent. He is also Schh3, FH, V-rated in structure, KKl-1 for life, DNA tested for DM normal/normal, and a-normal hips/elbows. He is producing excellent structure, pigment, temperament, drives, health, nerves, and beautiful heads too! |
Now if the OP had posted his picture on a thread about Bandit, his progeny, or my kennel - no problem at all. But he didn't. Bandit and his pictures are privately owned. I'm positive Alpine K9 has plenty of beautiful dark sable dog pictures on his website that the OP can steal if he chooses to use them in a thread about that kennel.
I am also a photographer who enjoys taking pictures - I take thousands of pictures and am regularly working hours and hours editing and sharing them, so that people can enjoy pictures of their dogs FOR FREE. I never ask for money for my pictures, my skill or my time. If the OP had requested the use of my picture of my dog to use as an example of a gorgeous dog that he likes the color of - sure - it would have been granted with the requirements of proper identification of the dog and credit to the owner, kennel and photographer.
Once again I request that the OP remove the picture of my dog Bandit from this thread.
by Chaz Reinhold on 10 June 2011 - 17:42
|That's cool. I never charge for my skill, either. Besides, I think that is illegal.|
by Gustav on 10 June 2011 - 18:10
|You catch more flys with Honey, than you do with vinegar. I hope poster is able to get a nice dog that she likes.|
by Elkoorr on 10 June 2011 - 19:00
|Dang Molly, you really know how to piss on the wrong tree! Instead of offering a nice pup you always have so plentiful avaiable, you need to feel stepped on your pride. You published entire albums of your pictures before. There is no misrepresentation or false claim of ownership in this case.|