German Shepherd Dog > Of course this happens to me! (21 replies)
Of course this happens to me!
by zepellin88 on 08 June 2011 - 20:49
|Me and my husband finally found the perfect puppy, german working lines with a fantastic pedigree, and just yesterday we get a call from the breeder telling us the vet could only find one testicle.... he is 10 weeks old and it could still come down I guess but i was wondering if anybody else had this happen or if there was anything that could be done to fix it? We have searched for soo long for the perfect dog and we really dont want to search all over again...|
by GSDNewbie on 08 June 2011 - 20:57
|At ten weeks there is a great chance it will drop.|
by GSDPACK on 08 June 2011 - 21:36
|50-50.... a very honest answer|
by Jenni78 on 08 June 2011 - 21:46
|What are your plans for the dog? If not breeding, then see if the breeder will discount him and take him anyway if you like the litter that much. It's not a serious health issue- just a bummer if you wanted to breed. Sounds like you got lucky that the breeder told you about it. |
I agree w/the 50-50 odds. Do some lineage research and see if monorchism runs in those lines. If not, you have a little better chance that it still may show up.
by zepellin88 on 08 June 2011 - 21:58
|Well we didnt plan on breeding him but we would have to pay for his surgery at around 7 months of age to get them both removed... and I hear thats pretty pricey, and also my vet told me to get a dog neutered that young means to pretty much take away all the testosterone and all the drive and that he would pretty much be a dud. Does anyone know when about it would show up it still has the chance too? Thanks for all the replys!|
by Jenni78 on 08 June 2011 - 22:09
|Why would you neuter him? One testicle would give him enough testosterone for what you want. You don't know anything yet; you don't know if it will drop or stay retained, and even if it stays retained, you don't need to get it out right away. I wouldn't be too hasty if he's the pup you really want. If I wasn't buying a breeding prospect, I really wouldn't worry about it at all. If I ever bred one w/only one testicle, I would sell it at a deeply discounted price...half, maybe. Just food for thought.|
by zepellin88 on 08 June 2011 - 22:16
|Well the vet told my breeder it has to come out while he is young if it doesnt he would have a great chance of getting cancer.|
by crhuerta on 08 June 2011 - 22:18
|You do not need to have the retained testicle removed that young.....|
*We had a puppy buyer that purchased a male (the only male) from a litter of 2 pups.
The male had 1 testicle. They chose to wait until the dog was almost 15mos old to remove it (and they left the other intact). The dog is over 3 yrs old today & developed into a fine, masculine male. Aside from breeding or show....there is nothing that they cannot do with the dog....he is their companion dog anyway.
by zepellin88 on 08 June 2011 - 22:25
|Do you know if removing the testicle would effect his drive? I planned on doing Schutzhund with him and we are training him in pp my husband is in the military.|
by Jenni78 on 08 June 2011 - 22:35
|There is a greatER chance of cancer if you leave it...but certainly not high enough of a risk to pull it that quick. I had a dog once w/this and the vet said if I was worried about cancer to leave it alone until he was middle-aged, old enough that his risk factors increased, but young enough that he wouldn't have a hard time with surgery.|
I totally agree w/Robin. There is NOTHING this pup can't do.
by zobelhund on 08 June 2011 - 22:38
|The testicle has a chance of dropping still. If by 5-6 months it hasnt dropped it will not.|
If you do not plan on breeding you should still consider the dog. We had a chihuahua (totally different breed, I know. lol) we got from a breeder, They told us he was a cryptorchid. We LOVED him so we purchased anyways for half the price. We later neutered him at 7 months. Now, He was a small breed so I didnt feel bad about neutered so young.
If you do NOT removed the retained testicle it is likely to develop cancer. However, its unreal to have to neuter him at 7 months. I'd personally want to have him neutered around 20-24 months. It would not develop cancer if left there that long. Cancer is likely to develop past 4 years.
Good luck and hopefully you decide to get him.
by SitasMom on 08 June 2011 - 23:23
even it the surgery is expensive, you have a year or two to save up for it.........so save 2$ a day and before long you'll have plenty to pay for it....... that's less then a cup of starbucks.
by kennajo on 09 June 2011 - 01:48
|Is it just me or do the opinions on this subject sway back and forth both ways?? My pup will be 4 months on the 22nd and only one testicle has descended. The only concern I have is the cancer scare since I won't be breeding. I've heard both views ( hurry up and wait). My vet won't even neuter until 6 months but I have read that the sooner the better. It is confusing to say the least. I wouldn't return Rocky for the world though. He is my hiking bud already!|
by Jenni78 on 09 June 2011 - 03:27
| There is a slightly increased risk of cancer in the testicle if stuck in the abdominal cavity...basically, think about testicular cancer and its odds. What you don't want is testicular cancer taking place in the abdomen...far more likely chance of spreading and harder to treat. It's not so much a case of "if left there, it will become cancer" and more a case of "if cancer develops and it's left there, it's more dangerous."|
I did tons of research on this over a period of several years, and that's what I gleaned from it, in a nutshell....pun intended.
by crhuerta on 09 June 2011 - 12:46
|sorry...going off topic a second....|
Aurick is going really well!.....Carlos & I really like that pup......Cat better be careful, he may become too much for her!! LOL!.....he has a lot of potential.
by Teufel Hunde on 09 June 2011 - 16:34
|Now,now Robin...even scare tactics won't get me to hand that boy over!!!!! LOL|
by Jeff Oehlsen on 09 June 2011 - 16:59
|Ok, 1 testicle the dog will produce more testosterone than a dog with two.|
You have no plans to breed RIGHT NOW, however, shit changes.
I have very little luck with pups dropping if it is not there at 10 weeks.
If you are working the dog, do not neuter till 2 years.
There is a greater chance of cancer, but it is not really likely. I am not sure why dipshit vets insist on saying this.
I would not pay for the dog. No one wants a 1 balled wonder that is even halfway serious about dogs. The breeder should give the pup to you on a contract that if it does drop, then you pay for the dog.
by crhuerta on 09 June 2011 - 17:27
|Oops Cat......I gotta work on my scare tactics better!! LOL|
I told ya...that I would take him anyday!
by BoCRon on 09 June 2011 - 19:16
|We've had this happen once or twice with dogs we've bought or sold. |
The first was a pup we imported for someone else, at 5+ months the testicle still hadn't dropped and the buyers returned the dog to the breeder and we got them another puppy, 3 weeks later the testicle dropped prior to us sending him back to the breeder. It was summer here and we couldn't put the dog on a plane in the heat so we were keeping him until it was safe to fly.The second was a pup from our breeding that the vet didn't want to say that it would or wouldn't drop (pup was 8-9weeks) so we kept him and gave him to our daughter. We have no idea when, but at some point we just realized the other had dropped after 6 months of age! I realize these incidents are probably not common, but just wanted to let you know that it can happen and not to get mad if you see the dog a year from now and it has both. In the first case, the breeder was a bit peeved and thought that maybe someone was trying to pull a fast one on them, but we had the vet send a sworn statement. The dog ended up as a working K9 back in Germany when all was said and done.
by zepellin88 on 09 June 2011 - 23:51
|Thanks for all the replys, were still trying to figure out what we want to do, we will probably end up getting him have already met him once and fell in love, I already want to go get him but of course mu husband is the voice of reason in this situation so hopefully we will have our minds made up soon!|