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Question about NEUTERING by kaoboy on 23 April 2011 - 04:45 |
| hi, so if i was to neuter my male gsd. what is the pro and cons? would it benefit him filling out? will it hurt his drive and prey? i also do schz. please help. and would he be abit easier to train?? thanks |
by TingiesandTails on 23 April 2011 - 05:06 |
| There is a very interesting META-Study about Long Term Health Risks and Benefits of Spaying and Neutering conducted in 2007 that you will find interesting: http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf |
TingiesandTails by Dawulf on 23 April 2011 - 05:11 |
| How old is he? It wont change him a bit. His personality and such will still be the same, but he will have to take it easy for a few days. We had our Poodle neutered when he was about 9 y/o, thinking it would help his marking problem. He didn't change a bit (which was a bit unfortunate, LOL). |
Dawulf by kaoboy on 23 April 2011 - 05:18 |
| hi, he is almost 8 months old. its not that he is marking, he still squats when he pees. im not intending to show him, or breed him. just i know from personal experience that he will calm down just abit, i think he is starting to show sign of agreesion to other dogs... especially during walks at night. i dont want him to grow up looking like a female. :(... his chest is looking nice. he also weighs 75lbs. so hes going to be a big boy.. |
by destiny4u on 23 April 2011 - 06:35 |
| wait till he is mature nuter him at 2 years, you dont have to do it right now.. Don't let a vet put pressure on you either. |
by Dawulf on 23 April 2011 - 07:24 |
| I have heard that sometimes dogs go through a phase when they are around that age.... he may grow out of the aggression, if you continue to socialize him well. I'd agree with Destiny to wait until he is fully matured. That being said, every dog is different. My last Shepherd was spayed at 9 months (during her first heat actually) and didn't change a bit. Still very territorial, protective, but with great drives. She would have made an awesome Schutzhund dog, I have no doubt about that. Truly fearless. :) |
by SonyaBullinger on 23 April 2011 - 16:17 |
| Hi Kaoboy, Pls refer to leerburg's article on neutering. http://leerburg.com/pdf/neutering.pdf Neutering a dog less than 2 years old will affect his working ability and i know that you do schuzhund with your boy so you might want to do it later |
SonyaBullinger by ALPHAPUP on 23 April 2011 - 23:38 |
| i didn't read the articles per other posts. BUT ... there are theories now [ more biological science] that neutering/spaying a dog does affect them ..in short .. hormones have a purpose and altering nature to early in the growth and develpment does have some adverse affects .. there are positives such as the decrease in testicular cancer but there are also negatives too. in addtiton , i have neutered males - they still mark territory , they try to court and mount my females when they come into heat etc. .. bottom line behaviors can be affected from neutering but that is not always a given . |
by kaoboy on 24 April 2011 - 00:04 |
| ALPHAPUP: when did you get your males neutered? and i dont mind in a little drive drop.. not at all. i only do the sport just to have fun with my puppy, he likes it, and it creates a bond. im not planning to breed him or anything. if he gets titles GREAT. but at the end of the day. i want a dog that i dont have to worry about when females are in heat 5 miles away. and that it wont run away when we go to the beach and such, i know its mostly training. and his recall is really good.. just aways a thought in the back of my head.. i just dont want him to not develop before i get him neutered. has anyone got there male neutered around my age of the puppy? |
by troublelinx on 24 April 2011 - 03:20 |
| Nerver, too crule |
troublelinx by jc.carroll on 24 April 2011 - 12:54 |
| I prefer to wait till 3yrs for neutering a male that won't be bred. Let him mature fully. Depending on lines, 2yrs is still a period of physical and mental growth, and to allow him to become fully male, I see no harm in letting them have an extra year to be sure they're completely done developing. If a male's starting to show a bit of aggression, neutering won't fix that. The best fix is training for that one. |
jc.carroll by Jenni78 on 24 April 2011 - 18:10 |
| Kaoboy, there are hundreds of threads on this topic in which I and several others have contributed worthwhile information that we don't feel like typing over and over again. If I were you, I'd use the search function, and happy reading! I have 4 intact males and 4 intact females here on my property. None have ever done ANY of the things you're stating you're concerned about (running away, care about females 5mi away, etc.). When my females are in heat and I don't want them bred, I don't let the males run w/them unsupervised, and if supervised, I tell them to leave it. It's really quite simple. |
Jenni78 by mirasmom on 25 April 2011 - 10:58 |
| I agree with Jenni78, I have intact males that never roam, and when females come into heat, I just don't let them out together. You will probably run into more spayed females than females in heat over the course of time. Through personal experience of owning male & female dogs throughout the years, I think spaying and neutering makes them gain more weight than if they were left intact, and it calms them down quite a bit. You don't have to neuter the dog if you are not planning to breed him, just don't breed him. Good luck, Paula |
mirasmom by muttlover25 on 25 April 2011 - 16:17 |
| All our dogs are fixed at 5-6 months of age all have great muscle tone and don't look smaller or different than their siblings that were never fixed. My Am Staff was neutered at 5 months old and he's more muscular and larger than his 3 other brothers who never were neutered so don't let that stop you. If you do neuter him now it will help with the issues you are having. Amy |
by VKGSDs on 25 April 2011 - 16:25 |
| I would wait until the dog is 2 years old (fully mature physically). Even altered males can show interest in bitches in heat. They can mount and tie too. And mark.... IMO most of these "reason" to neuter a male could be training/management issues. Just being neutered does not instantly alter these habits. |
VKGSDs by Jenni78 on 25 April 2011 - 22:26 |
| No way do they have "great muscle tone". I can just about tell a neutered dog from an intact dog by looking at them for ten seconds. Dogs people think look great and muscular are usually fat. Of course they grow larger; those hormones are needed for closing growth plates, so when you neuter them young, they keep growing taller, which is NOT a good thing!!! It's even worse for a GSD than a shorter/smaller breed. I will not even sell a dog to someone who plans on neutering. It's just too detrimental to their health and I prefer not to sell to people who put their own convenience ahead of their dogs' optimum health. |
by ggturner on 25 April 2011 - 22:48 |
| My 2 yr old intact male is not a problem at all. I don't plan on getting him neutered. He does not have aggression issues. He is very athletic and muscular and we prefer to keep him that way. |
ggturner by mollyandjack on 26 April 2011 - 01:28 |
| I would never have a medical procedure done on my dog for the sake of convenience. Just my perspective on it. My dog is intact, will never be neutered, has not been bred and will not be bred - and it hasn't been particularly difficult to manage this. He does not run away at the beach to look for love ;-) He has aggression, yes, but I think that if you have to take away a dog's ability to reach it's true genetic potential in order to feel comfortable living with it, then you've made a mistake in acquiring that dog. Just my thoughts FWIW. I would at least wait until the dog is two. |
mollyandjack by kaoboy on 26 April 2011 - 06:32 |
| thanks for all the advice. i will wait till he is fully grown. both mentally and physically and will go from there.. thanks for all the input, wasnt sure and it helps since most of you have nice dogs, and do schz. thank you once again |
by Prager on 26 April 2011 - 08:07 |
| Do not do it as a conveninece but only if the dog has a medical problem. Save your money aand spend it on training! Train your dog and love your dog the way mother nature of God or what ever you believe in created it. The people who say it has no effect on the dog have have no clue what they are talking about, or they are lying or they have agenda. If it would be the truth then why to do it? I can look at dog walking 100 ft from me and if it had been spayed or neutered in ANY AGE for more then 1 yr I'll will be able to determine if he /she was altered in 99% of cases just by the way it looks and walks. I always tell people:... if it is good, then alter your self.:) Prager Hans |
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