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by Jeff Oehlsen on 11 July 2011 - 02:11 |
| How about the Schiffslache kennels ? Does anyone like dogs coming out of there ? I like Tyson, and I have seen some pups from there that I really liked, but it is not like I have seen all that many. I am going to get a pup out of that kennel one of these days, currently the Euro is dashing all my dreams, just can't make the jump for some reason. ( It couldn't be the look ! 850.......... oh, wait, it is more like 1300 plus my soul for shipping.) |
by ziegenfarm on 11 July 2011 - 02:44 |
| schiffslache D-wurf & G-wurf. pjp |
ziegenfarm by judron55 on 11 July 2011 - 13:06 |
| I have a very nice bitch 2-3 on Orla von der Schiffslache. This is her page http://www.working-dog.eu/dogs-details/927578/Bo%20von%20der%20Staatsmacht/ |
judron55 by myret on 11 July 2011 - 13:33 |
| We have this son of Javir here in Denmark many have already used him alot he is a young dog I like but I dont think I would breed to him http://www.working-dog.eu/dogs-details/184183/Jabina-Gustav |
myret by myret on 11 July 2011 - 13:43 |
| I think we will see alot more breedings from the Staatsmacht L-litter Lary and Leon Asko von der Lutter sons ¨wonder though why this http://www.working-dog.eu/dogs-details/81191/Sam-Beit-Haboxer-Mehagiva one has not got that many breeding |
by myret on 11 July 2011 - 13:48 |
| How is this dog Como as many of you mention???? whats is it about this dog cant find any videos of him anywhere  |
by TDC on 11 July 2011 - 17:40 |
| I too have enjoyed reading this thread and agree with many about Elute and Javir. I know I'm partial as I own females from both of these dogs and are very pleased with them. I have had the opportunity to see several dogs from both Elute and Javir and from what I've seen I have been more impressed with the Elute dogs, although I like the Javir female the best. I would be interested in what others think about Karn vom Fegelhof and what he has produced. |
TDC by Koach on 11 July 2011 - 19:22 |
| It's too bad the French Ring dogs from France are not used more often. The natural selection process of French Ring (IMHO) is much more telling than the easier Sch/IPO tests. People may be missing out on some very good potential studs and bloodlines. Koach |
by myret on 11 July 2011 - 19:53 |
| koach I agree  |
by BlackthornGSD on 11 July 2011 - 21:19 |
| Thanks for the links, Myret--interestingly, most of those dogs linked have a significant amount of German working dogs behind them--several are heavily linebred on Fero. |
BlackthornGSD by ramgsd on 11 July 2011 - 21:47 |
| Myret----- The reason SAM hasn't been used more is that he isn't in Germany. He is in Isreal and is a working military K9. |
by Bundishep on 11 July 2011 - 22:28 |
| Yes its too bad shipping so high out of Europe some very nice breedings over there,cant 200 of us get together and hire a sailboat to america,the pup prices arent bad its the shipping thats so painful |
by darylehret on 12 July 2011 - 01:04 |
| I'd put Schiffslache kennels in my top 5 or so favorite European kennels, particularly through Tyson, but also others. It's really just as interesting to predict who will be Top Kennels in our future, and not just the top producing dogs. |
darylehret by Jeff Oehlsen on 12 July 2011 - 06:28 |
| Apollon is not a fav of mine at all, and not something I would bother breeding to. He is basically a Sch dog that just went and did ring. LOL I have no idea what that means other than you cannot see how his ancestors held up to the sport at all. : ) That is why I really liked Esko's pedigree. His father has no Sch dogs back to the mid 70's. All ring dogs. Basco is very similarly bred with the majority in the father line being ring dogs. Half was a dog that I see bred closely on many times in really nice dogs, if there is Sch in the pedigree, which I like to see as little as possible, and only from the mother line. I am wanting to see if the French start doubling up on a more recent dog. I am trying to find this out, who is very well liked, but it is not very easy from here. : ) |
by myret on 12 July 2011 - 08:49 |
| Blackthorngsd I got a mail from the breeder og Obelix du val des hurles and he wrote me that there is a few of the west german lines he likes that was Yoschy, Troll and Aly and Nick they produce and of course fero because many of those dogs produce high prey and that is what they like i RING dogs mostly the prey he thought in the german lines has to much aggression for the RING sport prey and hunt drives are far better |
by myret on 12 July 2011 - 08:49 |
| ramgsd to bad really like Sam Beit |
by Jeff Oehlsen on 12 July 2011 - 08:57 |
| Daniel has been breeding GSD's longer than I have been alive. He really knows what he is talking about, and has bred God knows how many litters. Obelisk was an interesting dog. Would NOT retrieve for him. LOL |
by judron55 on 12 July 2011 - 10:20 |
| though Javir can produce well he can produce poorly also is there a dog mentioned in this thread that hasn't done the same? Bitches rule..... |
by judron55 on 12 July 2011 - 10:43 |
| the ring dogs seem to be bred like the recent czech dogs I'm seeing. I don't see where a dog doing Ring is better than a dog doing Sch. You have to judge the dog, not the sport IMNSHO. The link to the Javir son at the Masters.....just showed me an out of control dog:-) |
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