German Shepherd Dog > Neighbor Issues (31 replies)
by spernagsds on 09 April 2011 - 04:20
|Hello all and thank you for the wonderful suggestions and words of wisdom...|
@ SUEINCC Yes maam, I do understand what you are saying. I have had Shepherds for 15 years, am active in a club and am a CGC Instructor. Up until now the nasty neighbor and I have gotten along fine... The hubby was always a little strange...
First, this is ten acres... nice. I have been here for four years. I am merely a renter. :( We are currently in the process of looking for property to purchase and have the means to do so. These people have the permission of my landlord to walk through our properties back yard to the three acre pond behind us... They not only walk through with their dogs, but they drive through, over the grass with their vehicles, atv's, dirt bikes... Yeah, bad situation...
There was a nice fence here when we got here but the landlord has since pulled it out... ???
For the record, my dogs are NEVER off leash here at the house. When the kids or even myself play ball with them they are on a long leash. Second, the children I refer to as neighbor children (3 of them) have a Husky and Shepherd as well and are older in age, 7, 8, and 13. Their parents are very good friends of mine. My children (7) range in age from 2 to 15. Our dogs also pull the children in carts, we are very active with our dogs.
The nasty neighbor has a Rottie that they rescued, not sure where the fear of big dogs comes in, perhaps the deep color of my dogs or their bark... they are Black Sables or Bi's, Hmmm...
The child they say was attacked by my female was my own child and he is three now. He is NEVER left alone with the dogs, I have since learned that the incident in question was in front of the rabbit cage. She got excited and knocked him down and of course he became scared and cried, in fact, he screamed bloody murder, like he was injured. He was not harmed though. My daughter who is 15 was there and the dog was on a leash. She told me the story...
Also, We have ceased allowing any of the kids but our oldest to walk the dogs to their kennels in the morning or in at night.
You are all right also, he is waiting for anything to point nasties at... he has already run across the yard and grabbed that same female that grabbed his dog because he thought she was "fighting" with another of our dogs I was walking out on the way to their kennels. I was walking two dogs that were playing with each other, were on leashes but were "growling, grumbling and mouthing and jumping" on one another. He came accross the yard and grabbed the leash of the female and was ticked cause she wanted to bite him. He was holding her off the ground by the leash and collar!! He said he came to help ad thought I was being attacked...
Like I said, I am looking to MOVE... The great suggestions will however come in handy where ever we end up for sure!! I am also glad that I am not the only one who feels that this guy is some sort of a physcho...
I have even thought about temporary fencing till I can get out of here....
by demeras on 09 April 2011 - 05:59
|I have only one thing to say...Any one that grabs my dog from me...with out being asked to do so...gets what they get. My dogs are here for me...and they also protect me. Some stranger or even the neighbor thinking he is going to come over to me and take my dog out of my hand is going to get seriously bit. Your female seems very calm about the whole thing...good natured actually. My dogs wowuld never ever let some one come and grab them...let alone lift them off the ground and hang them by the collar. They would fight back. And besides the bite or mauling they would get...they would have to pull a half crazy little women "ME" off the guy....... doing way more harm then any dog would do. I would beat the living tar out of tha guy...report him as attacking me and my dogs and take his dumb ass tto court for trespassing. As for your Landlord. He is a Dick. When you rent a place...its supposed to be yours. You should not have to let the neighborhood run through your yard. MOVE. Jesus H Christ.|
by brynjulf on 09 April 2011 - 15:08
|You poor thing I'm not sure what I would do if someone grabbed dogs from me. Probably stand there mute for a second then let loose with a torrent not fit for young ears. The idiot could have gotten hurt very very badly! I think you need to have him over for coffee and explain very clearly the nature of a protective breed. He is obviously trying to help you but......|
by sueincc on 09 April 2011 - 16:41
|At least it's a good time to buy.|
by Mindhunt on 09 April 2011 - 21:31
|Unfortunately, a lot depends upon the laws of where you live. I have learned that you cant fix stupid and you can't open a closed mind. There are those people that have a specific mentality that includes looking for someone to sue or blame for all their woes, be very careful because unfortunately, lawyers love dog bite cases because GSDs are considered "dangerous". I say post your property with no tresspassing signs and send a certified letter to your neighbors stating that they are to stay off your property (per the laws in your area). They are no longer allowed to tresspass and be sure to make the letter both professional, polite, and firm (always looks good in court if it should come to that, you were maintaining polite professionalism). Keep your emotions out of the mix and stay objective and professional at all times when dealing with these idiots, video cameras and digital tape recorders are also a good thing if you continue to catch them on your property. Video security cameras that monitor your dog areas (don't tell the neighbors and make them concealed) in case they defy your request to stay off your property. You can take the video survelliance equipment but not the fencing when you move. I have a friend who caught on tape, the neighbors throwing poisoned food over her fence when she had issues with her neighbors (not trying to scare you) and they denied doing this (she was able to get the food before anything bad happened). Just protect your dogs, your children, and yourself. People are doing crazy things these days. Good luck|
by 3Shep2 on 09 April 2011 - 21:45
|Neighbors are not really an issue-but I have a blacktop road on two sides-so have walkers-a lot bicyclists-property has woven wire fence on four sides but still received questions on confinment-been thinking of posting yet another sign stating to "forgit the dogs-Beware the Owner!"|
by cphudson on 10 April 2011 - 22:39
|Sorry to hear about your situation. We had a similar issues with neighbors while we rented for a year until our current property was ready to move into. Our neighbors would not leave us or our dogs alone. Our dogs would sneeze & we would hear about it. We attached tarps along all outside parts of the kennels so no one could harass / see our dogs any longer. We then purchased large platters that we filled with stone & 4x4 post. We placed these around our kennels & walk way from the kennels to our back door. We then attacked chicken wire to all the 4x4 post in the planters. You can even but tree's in large plants instead, so you can plant them in your new home when you move. But either way you'll have a temporary fence keeping being away from the dogs & you. Post signs on your new make shift fence, & Like the camera idea also given too.|
All potential homes we considered purchasing I went to talk with the closest neighbors before even considering placing a deposit. Most people were equally happy to meet & talk to who might be their future neighbor too.
I always made a point to tell them I had GSD's, if they made a face or any negative comments like; afraid of dogs / they better not bark / attack their cat or small dog etc.. look else where you'll only have issues there.
Where we currently live we have almost the opposite issue now, everyone loves our dogs especially the neighborhood kids. Sounds great uh? Not exactly we can't have a moments peace without 15 kids in our yard or half the neighborhood stopping by. You would think when I do training we were putting on a dog show, everyone comes with folding chairs to watch, & if word gets out we had a litter of puppies the door bell doesn't stop ringing with visitors coming to see them! We joke that the bus driver shouldn't even bother dropping the kids off in front of their house, they always end up here in 5 minutes any way. We live in a rural area with lots of farmers that all love animals.
So if we move in the near future we'll also watch for neighbors that seem to eager to have us. LOL
by demeras on 10 April 2011 - 23:03
|Crazy as it sounds My husband planted over 200 trees now almost 18 years ago. Euciliptis ( how ever you spell it) and then Laurel Hedges up by our house. We also put in Latice fence and put wisteria vines on it. They can't see us anymore and we can't see them. The trees and the hedges are a great buffer...and the horses and dogs now have some peace...and so do the neighbors. I was simpathetic to their feelings of being harrassed by my dogs on the fence if they went out into their own pasture. So we put up the trees and the hedges. I realize you are renting...but for the future. Trees and bushes are a great investment. And we have privacy. Love it. And we got the sky line back. The runs all have shade cloth.|
by troubles on 10 April 2011 - 23:06
|i cant believe he grabbed the leash from you|
wouldn't that make a lot of gsd's defensive?
you should just pepper spray him or something he sounds like a danger
by darcithompson on 12 April 2011 - 16:35
|There is no excuse for taunting a larger dog!!|
We (dog owners) can try all the obedience training in the world. While it may eliminate some of the behavior, chances are it won't eliminate all of it... If you are the owner of the smaller of the two (or more) dogs that are fence fighting you MUST put in a second fence in front of the dividing fence. Our little guy was leaning against a 6'wood fence when one of his teeny fingers barely protruded through 1/4 gap between the wood slats. I tried to grab my dog to bring him inside (as I always do when I know the other dog is out) and I couldn't grab my little guy fast enough. The "well trained" German Shepherd on the other side (who was 2' from his owner AND wearing a training collar) managed to grasp my little guys finger, pull his whole arm through and bite it off. It took the owner what seemed like forever to get her dog to release what was left of our dog's arm. $1200 unrecoverable dollars later, our dog has 3 legs. The trauma for our family was the worst we have ever been through. The $ is not recoverable because our dog "invaded" the other dog's yard. PROTECT YOURSELF. Even if you are less than 1' away from your dog this can happen!! DON'T ASSUME that the owner of the dog capable of killing your dog will take preventative action. Plus, even if the owners of the larger/stronger dog do take action, accidents CAN and WILL happen. A friend visiting their home may accidentally leave a gate and/or door open.
by SitasMom on 12 April 2011 - 20:45
|i had a bad neighbor issue a while back. their dogs were ALWAYS loose. first I built fences, which helped but for only a whie. Next I bought some chickens and took photos of their dogs chasing and killing my chickens. I showed the photos to the neighbor who laughed. The very next day when his dogs came over to kill my chickens I shot every one of his dogs. He called the cops, I showed him the photos and also the part of the law that allows me to protect my stock from preditors. The cop looked at me and smiled and told that neighbor that he needed to keep his dog in his yard because there's a leash law and also a preditor law and I acted within my rights. when the rest of the neighborhood found out what I had done, a thank you basket arrived at my door!....|
the cop had a similar situation and was happy to know the exact law so he could deal with his neighbors too.
too bad its the dogs that end up having to pay for shitty owners.
by beetree on 12 April 2011 - 21:38
|So you set the dogs up to be shot (dead) to make your point to the neighbor. I guess it takes all kinds. Not what I would ever consider doing, is all.|