German Shepherd Dog > beginner need help (28 replies)
beginner need help
by bitetonight on 16 March 2011 - 06:11
|my name is joe lynch and i have been training with a few people and their dog but i would like to train dogs for titling and possible train dogs for people that are selling them as titled dogs but never can find anyone willing to trust a beginner to do so if anyone wants dogs title d or can help me get more experiance by letting me train their dogs please let me know my problem is were i live their aint eought people looking for or training their dogs for shutz how do i find people willing to let me work their dogs for them and at a cheap price for them???? any info will help thank you|
by beetree on 16 March 2011 - 13:41
|Do you have a dog yourself? Maybe if you titled your own dog, your credentials would be more appealing?|
by LadyFrost on 16 March 2011 - 13:44
|Joe...i hope you know it would help if you listed your location, your experience even with a few dogs that you stated you trained, what you had done and what you are good at, video, photos that always helps...also if and when you get contacted anyone who is serious would ask you for references or even letters of recommendation...you know the basic stuff....|
you are asking people to trust you with their dogs...no different than asking if you can use someones loaded weapon...depending on how serious you are and committed you may want to at least invest in some basic marketing.....it would have helped to observe especially this forum before posting...just an opinion Joe...look before you leap...
by LadyFrost on 16 March 2011 - 13:45
I agree....beetree 100% right...
by FlashBang on 16 March 2011 - 14:20
1) Train and title your own dogs
2) See about being an apprentice under another trainer who titles and trains dogs
3) Gather written references from the people you are currently training
by eoinoc on 16 March 2011 - 18:38
|joe where are u from|
by bitetonight on 17 March 2011 - 03:26
|im from wisconsin and if you go to youtube i have a dog i trained on their the video title is jmlynchm4v if this will help me and i hope it does and i have people to use as a refrence that i have worked with|
by VonIsengard on 17 March 2011 - 03:54
Is this is it?
Joe, I hope people here don't tear you down too harshly because you're obviously into dog training, and that's great. You aren't ready to title dogs for other people. To even do decoy work for others when you are not trained is unfair to the owners you're working with, and detrimental to their dogs.
There are many excellent trainers in WI/IL that you can work with to become better. Title your own dog, as many times over as you can. Then title your next one. Then your next one. Go to seminars! Flinks will be in WI in May. What part of WI are you from? There are SchH clubs all over the midwest.
No one serious about having their dog titled is going to give you, or anyone else in your position, their dog as a guinea pig. You have to get out there and prove yourself first. Best of luck to you.
by bitetonight on 17 March 2011 - 04:23
|i am working with some one but the deal is i have to bring my own dog to training and he trains us both thats why i was willing to train for just the cost of the owner paying food and all not for a profit my profit is i get more training the owners profit is they get a titled dog|
by kaoboy on 17 March 2011 - 04:23
|really really nice looking dog. seems like the dogs attention spam is kinda low?|
how old is your dog?
and just looking at the video, does he have problems with people being behind him?
i know your trying to get another dog to train from someone else
but i would never ship or leave me dog at a another person house to get trained.
either im there, watching and learning or nothing else.
my dog comes to work with me, comes to canadian tire with me, care rides you make it hes there.
you gottta understand for MOST people they get a dog to be part of the family.
would you ship your kid across the country to get potty trained?
just my 2 cents.
i agress get your own dog titled, go to show him off, and people will come to you.
i own my own company, all my clinets are threw word of mouth.
show everyone what you can do, and then your phone will be ringing off the hook.
by vincentpmchugh on 17 March 2011 - 06:49
|WTF is this guy serious? I am not a negative person but if I were this guy I would delete the YouTube video promptly. A fly swatter? WTF!! I have been doing Schutzhund for a little over two years I have Titled a Malinois to a SchH III and am a decoy in my club under a very well respected trainer who has competed at the BSP. All of this and I know it isn't much at all, and I wouldn't even think about asking to train and title someone elses dog.|
by beetree on 17 March 2011 - 13:15
|Everyone wants to start at the top these days, or so it seems.|
by sable59 on 17 March 2011 - 15:55
|the kid is just learning. give him a break. to many critics and not enough praise for a young man trying to break into dogs. keep going bitetonight things will get easier for you. you are young.|
by beetree on 17 March 2011 - 16:20
|Sure, I agree sable59, but he's got to be real, too! Meaning realistic in his expectations of himself---what is he actually offering to any prospective client? That they want? No one in their right mind is going to give him a well bred dog to do what he will without proof of what he can do. Wishes and desires are great, asking advice is great. Then reality sets in.|
by bitetonight on 17 March 2011 - 19:26
|thats why i posted this people to get advise to get to the right aspects of it i have as much drive and will ass any dog on here i give it all i have and thank you guys for the negitive things you say it makes me drive harder and i see my mistakes threw ur negitivity and i will make it in traini9ng and now i have a good teacher the video is from when i first started three yrs ago and all that obediance was my work and the dog came from an abused home and i did good with him acuality i sold him for 7000 dollars to a good family so i have inproved and i will keep improving so if you guys are willing keep giving me help because i have learned alot thank you guy|
by beetree on 17 March 2011 - 19:48
|Well, if you can sell your dogs for $7000 then forget anything I just said.|
by Freddy on 17 March 2011 - 20:19
|I am by no means an expert but I am trying. Part of being taken seriously is being able to convey an image that you are all you advertise. Often the first contact you'll have will be email or on a board like this. You're not going to get far posting 141 word sentences that require reading multiple times just to sort through the grammatical and spelling errors. |
Slow down, take the positive advice that members above have posted, and keep trying. If you have the talent, PATIENCE, and drive, you will get to where you want to go.
by vincentpmchugh on 17 March 2011 - 22:35
|Freddy!!!! Hilarious did you actually count all the words? |
I am sorry if I came off wrong but it seemed to me that this guy thought that he deserved to train and title someone's dog. Now he is saying that he sold that particular dog for $7000, yet still wants to train someones dog for the cost of food only? Come on now! I was not trying to be negative I am just a blunt and realistic person, sorry if any of you were offended.
I revert back to his original post when I say that you can't ask for gold when you can't even afford aluminum.
He needs way more than advice, he needs alot of help, and a forum is a great way to learn a few things but it is no replacement for real life. Furthermore contrary to what some video's say you can't become a dog trainer from watching Youtube and then making a video of your own.
by Ramage on 17 March 2011 - 23:39
|I'm confused ... this is Zoro, right?|
So, isn't this the one and the same dog being advertised for $3,500 as of March 13th?
or does the OP own two dark sable males name Zoro?
Bitetonight - I think you have potential and, most certainly, passion. I hope you succeed and can find a good mentor/trainer to help you get there. Best of luck.
by bitetonight on 17 March 2011 - 23:59
|i did have him on here for 3500 and then some one saw him and saw the work he was doing when he saw him and they offered it so i took it and i haven been watching movies on youtube i have been watching videos of acutal trainers that they made and sell my dog is high drive and so am i but now i dont have my dog so i am just looking for one that will help my training excperiance as well as get trained in the classes im taking with excperianced trainers thats all so eough about my dog lets give me training advise and all ok thank you|