German Shepherd Dog > Rin Tin Tin Puppies (50 replies)
Rin Tin Tin Puppies
by ggturner on 03 February 2011 - 23:37
|The legacy continues. Rin Tin Tin puppies: http://www.rintintin.com/upcominglitters.htm .|
by VonIsengard on 03 February 2011 - 23:55
|I see dogs of the exact quality found in any newspaper, priced outrageously, riding on the coattails of a famous line of movie dogs from over 80 years ago. Nice to see the health testing, but what can they do now? |
by ggturner on 04 February 2011 - 00:11
The breeders of Rin Tin Tin puppies participate in charity events, including placement of therapy dogs: http://www.rintintin.com/events.htm .
by VonIsengard on 04 February 2011 - 00:15
|That's awesome. But is has nothing to do with the breed. Goldens make great therapy dogs. Would you pay over $2700 for a puppy because decades ago it had an ancestor in a movie? I guess it depends on what you want in a dog. That's just not for me. |
Edit: I take it back about the health tests. Some have a letter from the Ontario Veterinary College and some just say "x-rayed".
by troublelinx on 04 February 2011 - 03:28
I have been looking for my next PSA canidate to take to PSA 3. Now the search is over, I will get a RIn Rin Tin. They MUST all be great working dogs
by Sunsilver on 04 February 2011 - 04:22
|The owner of the Rin Tin Tin kennel, Daphne Herford runs a charity called A Rinty for Kids www.arfkids.com/ to provide dogs for special needs children. I am not sure if these dogs are considered therapy dogs or service dogs. One of the Rin Tin Tin dogs is currently working in SAR. Daphene and her grandmother also used to run security companies in Texas that used Rin TIn Tin dogs along with licensed security officers. She no longer does so, as the temperment of the Rin Tin Tin dogs has probably gone down the crapper along with the rest of the American GSDs... :(|
See this link here for details about the security work. It won't let me right-click, so I can't copy and paste.
www.rintintin.com/story.htm It's about 3/4 of the way down the page.
The dogs ARE tightly and carefully line-bred on the original Rin Tin TIn dogs, and their ancestry can be traced back to welll-known American lines, like Villa Marina, San Miguel, Bodyguard and Long Worth, and from there to German lines. (But of course the same can be said for most of the American dogs out there...)
by RinTinTin on 04 February 2011 - 14:08
Good morning sunsilver. To answer your question, the rin tin tin dogs temperaments are fine and have not, as you suggest, "gone down the crapper." The temperaments are great.
And for KCcaja - we do pre-lim x-ray our dogs and when they are of age we OVC or OFA hips and elbows. In addition, we guarantee our pups to OVC or OFA H&E.
by Sunsilver on 04 February 2011 - 15:28
|Okay, but could the Rin Tin Tin dogs still DO security work? Very few American line dogs can.|
I know the temperments must be stable and people-friendly in order to do the publicity and service/therapy work. But do they still have the ability to protect?
by ggturner on 04 February 2011 - 16:23
|Keep up the good work RinTinTin! I salute you!|
by alboe2009 on 04 February 2011 - 16:24
|Hey Rin TinTin?|
Is this Daphne Hereford or a spokesperson or a person with "Rin Tin Tin" as an author name?
by Sunsilver on 04 February 2011 - 16:50
|I believe that was Daphne posting as Rin Tin Tin. She has posted on the board before (in the General Topic area) and she also has entered some of the Rin Tin Tin pedigree information here.|
by LukasGS on 04 February 2011 - 17:00
|I feel that's like asking if any working german shepherd can be a therapy dog...|
by SportySchGuy on 04 February 2011 - 17:33
|It is interesting that this bloodline has been perpetuated. I wonder if any of the charactristics of the original Rinty have carried through to today's dogs. The first Rinty was a rather dark sable and from what I can tell was a truly amazing dog. The lack of pigmant in the dogs on the website bugs me though. |
by VonIsengard on 04 February 2011 - 17:45
|When I looked at the some of the pedigrees on your site, many of the dogs in the pedigrees just say "x-rayed", no OFA and no OVC (what is that, by the way?) but perhaps those were dogs you didn't own but simply appeared in the pedigree, as I did not see them on the OFA database either. Out of curiosity, when a puppy you sell does not pass OFA, do you offer full replacement or must the buyer return the puppy?|
Again, awesome on the work with kids. That's great. Does this mean the high puppy prices are being put toward funding this charity work and the donation (this what I assume you mean by "placing") of pups to therapy and assistance? Is so, I guess I can understand that, does that mean a purchased puppy is tax deductible, like when someone gets a puppy from a charity auction? Do you have an average sell/donate ratio for your litters?
Sunsilver, great questions. The GSDs inherent protectiveness can sometimes make them inappropriate for certain types of service work. Service GSDs in our society today must be verrrrrry mellow which can conflict with the original standard for temperament and workability. Now in a litter you may have one or two lower drive pups in a litter of medium drive puppies that could be suitable for such work. To specifically breed out the drives for that purpose I feel does a disservice to the breed.
What are some of the current films/TV appearances? I'd be interested in seeing them move around, work, etc.
by alboe2009 on 04 February 2011 - 17:56
|Not sure if you're saying the first "Rinty" as in the very first Rin Tin Tin? But if I'm correct "Rinty" Is a name of one of the pups, but not the very first dog named Rin Tin Tin. "Rinty" is one of the sons of Rin Tin Tin IV, somewhere around 1954. |
Rin Tin Tin was one of two pups acquired during World War I, 1918, in France by a Corp. L. Duncan. After the war one pup died and the one survived was Rin Tin Tin.
by SportySchGuy on 04 February 2011 - 18:09
|Well I call the original one Rinty instead of Rin Tin Tin. If that is wrong then sue me I guess. I thought that was a nickname.|
This is the RIN TIN TIN I was referring to. www.google.com/imgres
Quite a good looking dog compared to his relatives today.
by alboe2009 on 04 February 2011 - 18:14
|Nah, can't sue you, don't want your money. Just going off your comment. "Rinty" is a name of the pup in '57, relax, no problem.|
by ggturner on 04 February 2011 - 18:15
I think that may be a picture of Rin Tin Tin Jr.
by SportySchGuy on 04 February 2011 - 18:26
My research indicates that the original was alive from 1918-1932. The pic is dated 1925. The vehicles in the pic would support that claim I think. If that info is correct then that "should" be the original.
BTW I did read where the original was called Rinty. I can't say for sure 100% as I was not alive then and did not know all parties involved.
by ggturner on 04 February 2011 - 18:41
The original Rin Tin Tin and Rin Tin Tin Jr. are probably the darkest of all of them. Both nice looking dogs.