German Shepherd Dog > Rambo the GSD Puppy and His'' shock'' Collar ...after two weeks of'' shocking'' (95 replies)

Rambo the GSD Puppy and His'' shock'' Collar ...after two weeks of'' shocking''
by Lief on 03 February 2011 - 23:13
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and shocking a Lab and a Chihuahua too!!!!!hehehe
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by Lief on 03 February 2011 - 23:14
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by Lief on 03 February 2011 - 23:16
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by GSDPACK on 04 February 2011 - 00:46
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shaking my whole upper  body....
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by Elkoorr on 04 February 2011 - 01:37
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Lief, I know whats wrong between Rambo and Misty. If you send me that pup I will tell you. Thats a fair offer.
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by Hedi on 04 February 2011 - 01:44
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What are your plans for the GSD?  Do you plan on keeping him? 
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by eichenluft on 04 February 2011 - 02:53
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just simply not necessary - as simple as that.  Not impressed.
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by Duderino on 04 February 2011 - 05:28
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Dogtra and Tri-Tronics must love you, there's $5,000 worth of collars in that video.  Can't say I've seen more dull and boring training, even my popcorn fell asleep.
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by steve1 on 04 February 2011 - 06:00
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If that woman knows what she is doing training  a dog then i will eat my hat, Gave me a good laugh and  the Collar must needed a double charge after that session i think
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by Jyl on 04 February 2011 - 06:39
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Well said.

I am just discusted with this. That poor pup! There is NO reason to put a shock collar on a 12 week old pup!!!! In the video it was mentioned several times that the pup was "dog aggressive", I did not see any evidence of that. I saw a confident pup (surprisingly) that was just being a pup and wanting the lab to play. Anyone else see the same thing?

To comment on the training...you posted 2 weeks ago (when the pup was 10 weeks old). So this pup has been worked for 2 weeks on this same lesson. Still the pup does not seem to understand what is wanted. The pup would be called first and then hear the tone. If the tone was just sounded the pup did not come....so to me the pup (Rambo) does not associate the tone with the "come" command. Insidently I never heard a command with the tone anyways....I would just hear the pups name said. For gods sake let Rambo be a pup, he is only 12 weeks old. There is plenty of time for training.

The ecollar is a great "tool" as any collar can be. There is always a time and place for any tool. But there is also a time when the tool should not be used and I will say that this is one of them! I am not saying the ecollars are bad. I have one and have used it, and also know how too.
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by GSDNewbie on 04 February 2011 - 06:56
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The puppy responds worse now than it did last posting. You are ruining that pup! Are you just freaking lazy? Are you trying to make a name or money off a gimick? I see no sense in what you are doing to those dogs and it sure as heck is not "training"

   That dog had an awesome recall until you screwed it up.
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by alboe2009 on 04 February 2011 - 07:40
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Well, never watched the first video so i said let's try that first. Made it through a minute. Then @ 30 seconds of the remaining ones. I'm kinda lost here, I remember a thread, I'm pretty sure it's the same person? Using a vibrate/shock collar for a deaf dog? I didn't see one in the video and now a couple of weeks ago a GSD pup. And now?.................... 

Initially, initially............................ ? I see four different breeds, are they yours or clients? The GSD I would think is yours and not a clients. The pup by what little I watched is just being a pup, not dog aggressive or aggressive towards the lab. JMO. 

IMO, a command is a one time command, and whatever animal it is requested from, in our case a dog, not just a GSD, but a dog obeys when it is understood, Saying the command numerous times and no there isn't a number amount, but more than once in my eyes means a few things: doesn't know the command, doesn;t understand the command, doesn't want to obey the command or doesn't give two poops what the person giving the command is saying. Half of what I seen is the GSD pup following the gang to get treats.................. Show videos with just the GSD. Once mastering the command then throw the other dogs into the situation. We over and over and over talk off the characteristics of the GSD, the intelligence etc. etc. and this takes away or disapproves that but here it's not the puppies fault. 

One of my pet peeves I'm beginning to see on this PDB is where the OP will put something out, i.e.; video, thread, comment or whatever. Then doesn't, or won't respond to back up initial post or comment on what commenter's have posted. You have to be reading the comments. Not saying you have to be on here every hour of every day but you have to cowboy up and back up what you're doing or what you're saying. Justify to an extent why you are doing/saying what you're doing/saying. And respond to the people's comments. If you can't stand tall then don't put the stuff out there for us to respond the way we do!
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by eichenluft on 04 February 2011 - 08:10
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12 weeks old and dog aggressive??????????????? = that's it - I understand now - you are an idiot.  Poor pup.
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by Jyl on 04 February 2011 - 08:26
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I will take that pup anyday....SERIOUSLY... I feel bad for that pup. He is going to be ruined.

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Please explain what on gods green earth are you trying to do with this pup?? Also please xplain the "dog agression" you see!? Maybe all of us are missing it.
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by Donald Deluxe on 04 February 2011 - 09:40
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 "way too much predatory behavior"?  "over-exaggerated prey drive"?

You think this is hardcore behavior?  Are you out of your freakin' mind?  This is entirely normal puppy play behavior of the same exact sort that all four GSDs I've owned exhibited when they were young.  I wouldn't want a pup who was less bouncy and playful than this one, I'd think he lacked condfidence and drive. 

The lab you think is being mauled by the little guy doesn't seem the slightest bit bothered, and shows far more sense than you do in the way it is reacting.  Please give this poor pup away before you ruin it, then get out of the breed by selling off your breeding stock and stay out.

Truly unbelievable.
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by animules on 04 February 2011 - 12:34
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You've had many offers to take that "dog aggressive" pup off your hands by people that understand and could handle it correctly.    As they are reading the pups behavious right, and you are not, please for the pups sake take one of them up on their offer. Those dogs were having a wonderful time playing until you messed them up.  Leave that poor pup alone and let it grow up to be a normal dog. 

Stupid stupid stupid  can't even call that training.  Now you taught the pup to ignore what little recall you claimed you had.  geeze.

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by Penny on 04 February 2011 - 13:33
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Again - like the last time I watched your video, I wondered why I was wasting my time, but I now see why I was - I was waiting to see this pup become this aggressive little soul you said he was.   Lief, some-one needs to tell you, so let it be me

THE PUP IS NOT AGGRESSIVE

THE PUP IS HAVING A ROUGH AND TUMBLE OR TRYING TO WITH A DOG OF A SIZE HE THINKS HE CAN DO IT

HE IS ALSO KNOWING (MORE THAN CAN BE SAID FOR YOURSELF) THAT THIS GIRL IS NEARER TO THOSE TREATS  YOU KEEP GIVING OUT SO IT A CHALLENGE ITS A BIT OF FUN FOR HIM,
 
unless you ruin him - and you probably will with this much lack of understanding, it wont get worse, and as can be seen at the end of the second video, Misty will put him in his place without the help of an electric collar - so begins the natural training of a youngster feeling his feet.

You are a disgrace to call yourself a dog trainer.   Mo.

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by gsdlvr4life on 04 February 2011 - 14:49
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What i dont understand is the way that you put the word shock and shocking in quotation marks?
Do you enjoy "Shocking" a 12 week old pup?
Honestly i am appalled at some peoples behaviour. I may be new in the world of training but i am definetly not that new. And then to post it on the internet and better yet on pdb where the most knowlegable trainiers in the gsd world are in hopes of.......what? That everyone would go wow look at you go shocking that puppy.
This people is drama at its finest.
Wow!!!
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by GSDNewbie on 04 February 2011 - 15:01
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I think this person is sick and seems to enjoy enraging us with her stupidity and perhaps she should not be fed anymore. Someone needs to find out where in fl and liberate those dogs from her.
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by gagsd4 on 04 February 2011 - 15:26
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