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Do You Recognize This Dog? by Valerie Clayton on 03 December 2010 - 20:29 |
 I recently adopted this dog from an Elkhart, IN rescue. I was told he was once owned by Dr. Lesley Scholl of Elkhart, IN and was imported from Germany. I was told his name is "Dom," he has no tattoos. He is about 95 lbs, in good weight. Has a huge head and bone, tight feet. They said he was 6-ish, but I think more like 7 or 8-ish. He does a Schutzhund heeling routine to "fuss." He has some broken canines suggesting he might have done a lot of bitework, but I have not had him out to the club yet. I would love to know this dog's pedigree, where he came from, etc. If he was imported by Dr. Scholl, I am hoping someone here might have assisted in the importation, or might know who did. If you have any info on this dog, please let me know! Thanks so much for reading.   |
Valerie Clayton by KellyJ on 03 December 2010 - 23:07 |
| Wow....What a dog! He is beautiful. I think you hit the jack pot finding this boy in a rescue. Very sad he would end up there... |
KellyJ by crhuerta on 03 December 2010 - 23:32 |
| What a very handsome older gent......"look at his eyes and expression.".. Best of wishes to you both! Robin |
by nonacona60 on 03 December 2010 - 23:44 |
| My first thought when I read this was, If this dog was owned by a Dr. it shouldn't be hard to locate that Dr. Maybe the Dr. can point you in the right direction to find answers... I would be on the hunt so quick to find out why this gorgeous guy ended up with a rescue or in a shelter....I probably would be on pins and needles with the thought that I may have to surrender the dog to his owner if he ended up there by accident....But its all about the poor dog, and whats best for him.....Good Luck to you and I hope you get to keep him. He surely is a fine boy.... |
nonacona60 by Judy P on 03 December 2010 - 23:52 |
| It would be rather difficult to contactt he Dr as he is in jail.I belive for murdering his wife. |
Judy P by jc.carroll on 03 December 2010 - 23:56 |
| [sent a PM regarding the dog] As for Dr. Scholl, I remember hearing the name on one of my news feeds a few years ago. You might not have much luck getting in touch with him... Doctor Charged--Elkhart doctor Lesley Scholl, 49, charged with hiring hit-man to kill wife, her lawyer, and another doctor [source] [edit: Ah, Judy beat me to that.] |
jc.carroll by nonacona60 on 04 December 2010 - 00:28 |
OMG!!! Just read the source link....He sounds like a lovely person..... . Guess you would have a problem getting in touch with him.....He doesn't even deserve this dog anyway.....I don't judge people but, I do hope he gets what he deserved... |
by darylehret on 04 December 2010 - 01:21 |
| If he were imported, I'd think there'd be an ear tattoo. |
darylehret by hexe on 04 December 2010 - 06:36 |
| Actually, it would probably be quite *easy* to contact the doctor since he's not likely to be relocating any time soon...you'd just need to send a letter to him there in care of the prison where he's being held. Might want to use a PO Box for any response he might send you, though, perhaps even a PO Box in an area some distance from where you actually live....don't think I'd want this character knowing my real name, let alone where I lived. Or perhaps you might try to contact his wife (hopefully, she's the ex-wife now) or the attorney he allegedly tried to have killed...that would probably be a safer route to go. The names of all the involved parties can be found in the criminal complaint document that's linked on the source site shown above... Handsome dog, and I'm glad he's in good hands and a forever home now. :) Blessings on you for opening your heart to him. |
by Valerie Clayton on 04 December 2010 - 13:49 |
| Thank you all for you comments! He is a very smart, gorgeous old guy, and he will be living a very pampered life for the rest of his life. He's just so obviously the product of careful breeding, I really would love to know his bloodlines. He has very thick bone, a giant head (a vet thought he was an Akita), a short wide muzzle, great pigment and tight bear-like feet. I will post a conformation shot here soon. Yes, I understand the doctor is a guest of the federal system now. The people who surrendered the dog to the rescue told the rescue that Dr. Scholl had imported the dog from Germany, and that they had been taking care of the dog since the doc "went away." The dog was also 20 lbs underweight, was full of worms, had an ear infection and a broken tail. It has been suggested to me that I write the doc in prison, and I actually think I am going to do that. After all, he's not too busy to write me, is he? |
by Sunsilver on 04 December 2010 - 14:17 |
| He looks like he could be a DDR dog, with the big, blocky head and big bone. That would be my guess, anyway! Hope you can find out more from the doc! |
Sunsilver by Valerie Clayton on 04 December 2010 - 14:17 |
| No ear tattoo, or tattoo on the inside thigh, which does make me think he did not come from Germany. But its possible he came from somewhere else in Europe, or maybe was just born here in the States of course. But this dog did not come from a puppy mill, and he did not come from American stock, and I'm dying to figure out what bloodlines produced this dog. My uncle was Grant Mann's kennel boy back in the 1930s and 40s, so I come from a "german shepherd family." I grew up with an Axel Kirschental son in the 70s, and I was a Wolverine Schutzhund Club member in the 80s and early 90s (only club in Michigan back then), so I saw many different bloodlines and what kind of dog they produce. But this dog is different.. he's kinda like the rottweiler version of a german shepherd: wide, muscular, solid. He looks like you could hit him with a 2x4 and he woudn't notice. I have seen some DDR dogs here in Michigan, but they are small compared to this dog. Are Czech dogs big like this? I am not familiar with Czech lines. He also came with a very dominant attitude: his response to doing any he didn't want to do, was to snarl. Not a scared defensive snarl, a stand-over-you-I'm-the-boss snarl. We fixed that right away. But you can't scare this dog. He doesn't even startle. You can drop a pan next to him on the kitchen floor and he won't jump. Nothing backs him up or even gives him pause. You can see I'm really impressed with him! Anyway, thanks so much for all of your good wishes. Feel free to post or send me a note if anyone has any info on where my old man came from. Best, Val |
by Valerie Clayton on 04 December 2010 - 14:27 |
| I should clarify to say that I have not seen that many DDR dogs. I have always had a german shepherd, but I've been away from the "dog world" for many years now. |
by tangsd on 04 December 2010 - 15:00 |
| Gosh what a lovely boy.Lucky him and lucky you. He reminds me so much of a dog i rescued from Battersea Dogs home, many moons ago. The face tells a thousand stories. I never knew anything about my lad but he would have defended my family with his life. I have had German shepherds for all those years since. Quite a legacy. Tanya |
tangsd by eichenluft on 04 December 2010 - 16:45 |
| Definately a well-bred dog and certainly not from American lines or a "backyard" breeder in this country. He maybe was not imported if he does not have any ear tattoo - are you sure? Look in the right ear, turn it inside-out with good lighting into the ear (use a LED flashlight if you have one) - you should see some evidence of green, even if you can't read the actual tattoo. My old dog Eagle looked quite a bit like him -with that head and bone I would also guess this dog also comes from DDR lines. molly |
by Jenni78 on 04 December 2010 - 21:57 |
| How big is he? You say the DDR dogs you've seen are smaller. Mine is 100lbs....and wears Rottie-size gear in stuff like muzzles due to his head and muzzle shape. He has a DDR look to his face, more so than a typically Czech look, but that all depends on lines. His attitude reminds me VERY much of a DDR dog or two that I own or have owned. Just write to the doctor and find out all of it. I can't imagine why he wouldn't tell you. Maybe he'd be happy to know the dog is ok. After all, the dog probably wasn't on his hit list. ;-) |
Jenni78 by animules on 05 December 2010 - 00:02 |
| Not all imported dogs are tattooed. My last one from the Netherlands was chipped, no tattoo. He was 5-years old when I got him. Fine looking guy. Sounds like a perfect fit since you know how to handle him. Best of luck and please do keep us posted on how things go and what you find out? |
animules by Ninja181 on 06 December 2010 - 22:50 |
| If you write the doctor I would also include a photo or two of the dog for identification. |
Ninja181 by VonIsengard on 06 December 2010 - 23:18 |
| I would not be surprised if he was tattooed but it simply faded away. This can happen with shallow tattoos, particularly with time. What a great dog. This is why I tell people with $300 budgets to check rescues! |
VonIsengard by alkster2002 on 07 December 2010 - 02:14 |
| What city and state was the dog rescued from .................... the dog has a DDR looking head with a LORD face ..................... the brown mask around the eyes ............... I am from Mich .............. let me know ..... I had tattooed all of mine in the right ear with green ink .............. do what Molly suggested with the special lite through the back of the ear because dogs with black pigment are difficult to see the tattoo................ Greg |
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