German Shepherd Dog > Black and tan female mated to Black male...what colour will the pups be? (19 replies)

Black and tan female mated to Black male...what colour will the pups be?
by frankow on 01 July 2010 - 20:48
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We've never used a black male with a b/t female before, and are just so excited to see how the pups will look!Does anyone know what colours can be expected?

Frank
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by AmbiiGSD on 01 July 2010 - 21:26
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Black and Tans...unless the black and tan carries the black gene.




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by GermanK9lover on 02 July 2010 - 01:31
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Black and tans and bi's  my pups mother was black and tan and his father is black..He was bred to a blk and red and got 2 blk/red and 2 bi's....
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by CMills on 02 July 2010 - 05:51
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They will all be dark black and tans unless the black/tan dam carries the black recessive gene.
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by AmbiiGSD on 02 July 2010 - 07:05
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You won't get Bi-colours if the Black and Tan is a saddle you'll get blanket backs, you 'Might' get Bi-colours if your black and tan is a blanket back and has bi-colour behind it close up.

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by GermanK9lover on 02 July 2010 - 17:29
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The mother of my pup was a blanket back and her mom was a bi color...you are correct there...
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by frankow on 02 July 2010 - 17:39
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Thanx for the response you guys,it was helpful!
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by Trotters123 on 02 July 2010 - 17:49
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Unless the black male is a dominant then ALL puppies will be black regardless of what is in the Dams line.
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by AmbiiGSD on 02 July 2010 - 18:17
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well miracles can happen, so they say....
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by Abby Normal on 03 July 2010 - 18:48
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I have a bitch that had a black sire and a black and tan saddle dam. Ambi is right....she is a blanket back. Her litter was all blanket back with one B&T saddle.

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by eichenluft on 03 July 2010 - 21:24
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blanket-back black/tans, and some will be solid black ONLY IF the dam has a black recessive - no black recessive, no black puppies.  But all should be "darker" or have more black coverage since all puppies will carry black recessive, from dad.

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by chuckie on 04 July 2010 - 16:50
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sorry if this sounds snarky (which it wil)--but if you don't know anything about genetics, why the heck are you breeding?????

and why ask the question AFTER the breeding is done (t least it sounds like it's a done deal from your OP)??  
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by frankow on 04 July 2010 - 18:14
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Chuckie
I'm partner to a breeder(keeper).No offence taken with regards,your post.I'm very knowledgeable when it comes to genetics.I enjoy the different sites and threads here, and the different answers people give.I am just so surprised by some of the answers people actually give on a specific topic.By now you should know...don't always believe everything you read!...Regards!

Frank
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by Trotters123 on 05 July 2010 - 15:25
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Frankow.....Whoa! now there partner!
your post was 'darn' helpful there......me thinks not!

I think if you are so knowledgeable then maybe divert some of your extensive knowledge to us mere mortals please as your statement was very deep and basically anyone could have written.

FRANK
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by frankow on 05 July 2010 - 18:09
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Thanx for your input,although I don't know if it was useful either...I just wish we could stick to "Dogs" for now,and as it suggests,some of 'us mere mortals' seem to know it all,but thats ok...it makes the world go round--We have 'your type'at my club too,we basically just ignore them.I sometimes sit here and read how people go at each other,and attack and pass remarks, and then I wonder, Why they do that!Your post dated 02/07,read it again and see what I meant...,but thats 'ok' too,we all make mistakes...nobody's perfect-Let us not be ashamed to learn.Will let you know the colours when the pups are born on 23/07.---Enjoy your dogs!
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by nonacona60 on 07 July 2010 - 19:35
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I agree with frankow. Posting and asking questions doesn't mean the poster doesn't know or have the knowledge to the answer, but just asking for opinions from others. In other words, just wondering what other people think... There is nothing wrong with that....

As I posted earlier, Everyone has a right to an opinion and the right to express it. That understood, no person's opinion is right or wrong. ITS JUST AN OPINION.. and everyone is entitled to one, and entitled to  express it... Now if we could all just comprehend this and respect other's opinions as we want others to respect our own, there wouldn't be so much bickering on here... and we could all get along and educated each other with differing opinions. Maybe that would open up narrow minded people to other views, and possibilities...

Bottom line::::No one opinion is right or wrong...ITS JUST AN OPINION, nothing more....

JMHO



Now lets get back to the original post.....Didn't mean to hi-jack the thread...
Just had to state my opinion!!!!

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by frankow on 05 August 2010 - 17:22
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nonacona60,what a good looking pic on your profile...Well guys, just to let you all know what the outcome was:5 pups were born on the 21st of July, and not on the 23rd as we expected.2 solid black males ,1 solid black female ,1 b/t male and 1 b/t female.

Frank
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by AmbiiGSD on 05 August 2010 - 17:55
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The Black and Tan carried Black then, nice :)  Good luck with the pups.
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by geordiegaviino on 07 August 2010 - 13:08
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I liked this thread it showed us not to judge so quickly and i am sure all the pups will go to great homes :)

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by GermanK9lover on 07 August 2010 - 17:49
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Aww congrats thats awesome you got 3 blacks !!
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