German Shepherd Dog > Team for the WUSV world championship (92 replies)

by oggy on 07 May 2010 - 22:08
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by steve1 on 08 May 2010 - 15:24
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Well
Time will tell who goes through and who do not, Overall the Scores were not too good, But i think the Scores are better from the other UK side which is good
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by snaffydoo on 09 May 2010 - 07:43
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dunno how i got it this wrong but i was earholing yesterday an i found that i told u duff info on the board. wot was said by old man nye at the agm was not only that e was doin it fer himself it was worse he told the hole agm crowd that he was doin it first for himself second for bagsd and third for the country so praps now we can see wots up with bagsd vpg if that woz the chairman at the agm wud any folk that woz there like 2 comment

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by Videx on 09 May 2010 - 08:27
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 snaffydog: There is absolutely nothing surprising in that allegation. It has been all to obvious for years.
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by izzi on 11 May 2010 - 17:49
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Subject: Team for the WUSV worldchampionship
 A reminder of WUSV  direction

Dear Sirs,

very often we were asked by the two Great Britain member clubs of the WUSV about the team for the WUSV world championship.

This is the decision of the WUSV member meeting:

In every country in which there are two WUSV member clubs the two clubs have to make one trial and the best competitors, no matter from what club they are, can participate on the WUSV world championship.

Best regards

Clemens Lux

Weltunion der Vereine für Deutsche Schäferhunde (WUSV) e.V.
- Generalsekretariat


The GSDL working group executive  have been working hard to achieve this, a level playing field, to determine the best dog and handler teams to go forward to WUSV 2010 to represent the UK
How about a response from BAGSD VPG on your intentions and response to Clemens Lux email ,and from the GSDL WG Executive as to how you are going to push this through ,WUSV have stated what is necessary ,are the KC going to support GSDL in enforcing the requirements laid down by WUSV
This is a great opportunity to clarify the qualifications for a UK team place at world events
To the rest of the GSDL members, support your working group executive in pursuing this important selection criteria ,direction from WUSV says it all ,do not let it go for this year ,and set a presitent to ignore future directives
 

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by Videx on 11 May 2010 - 18:30
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I would expect the GSD League WDG to formally write to the BAGSD requesting an urgent Joint meeting to discuss this very important communication from the WUSV.

The subject matter is urgent and imminent, so prevarication, avoidance or denial should not be allowed to become established and certainly not prevail in 2010.

Failure by the BAGSD to make every possible attempt to comply with the WUSV decision should be dealt with speedily, urgently and with real determination.

The Schutzhund Sport here in Great Britain has for far too long tolerated the self serving, self opinionated and pathetic excuse of a Schutzhund/VPG/IPO organisation going by the tites of BAGSD-VPG and/or BAGSD-VTD, the common part being the discredited BAGSD, an organisation that should much more appropriately become the BABC - British Association of Border Collies
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by Penny on 11 May 2010 - 22:15
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by zyna on 12 May 2010 - 14:05
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 Let's hope the UK team does better than last year!!!
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by steve1 on 12 May 2010 - 14:40
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According to what i saw of the UK team in Krefeld they will need to work better together than they did last year
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by Videx on 12 May 2010 - 22:52
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by poseidon on 12 May 2010 - 22:58
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For the best chance of a better result, only the best 5 performing dogs should represent the country.  It only makes sense, no?
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by Videx on 12 May 2010 - 23:45
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 absolutely YES!
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by steve1 on 13 May 2010 - 05:14
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Most Certainly
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by Penny on 13 May 2010 - 05:56
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WITHOUT DOUBT    - so why is ther doubt  that it will happen, now that Clemens Lux has written for it to be so.   Mo. 
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by fairplay on 13 May 2010 - 06:35
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My guess is they'll be scratching their heads while working out a way to get around a joint selection trial with GSDL WDG, why? because it won't be so damn EASY to be selected - too much competition for them!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it any wonder some of our most experienced Handler teams are just not interested in competing for selection to world events, When a certain few from BAGSD VTD/VPG don't even have to try - it's a joke!!!!  and demoralising to those that train bloody hard to make the team!!!




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by Penny on 13 May 2010 - 08:33
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If I were in the position to own and work top working dogs, (I wish) and I knew that others with far lower marks could also go through because they had the right to, devoid of their scores, I would feel demoralised too.
However, if I knew that there had been a letter from Clemens Lux that stated categorically the best of the best - then I would fight and fight to get it that way,

Devoid of dogs - in any sport or discipline at all  THE BEST GO THROUGH not a selection of best and a majority number of others.   What on earth must Europe be thinking of us?  two teams because thats the way we run things, rather than choose our very best workers to get out there and compete.  

BAGSD on this occasion should meet with the GSDL and have a joint deciding trial.  They should keep their chins up and have some dignity and be happy that the best went through - who knows it could be them if their dog has a good day,   They should then have the interest to go to the Worlds and cheer on the UK team.  

Only when this has happened, will we EVER get things right in the UK and stop being pitied by the rest of the world for our daft attitude.  This is my opinion as some-one who knows very little about working a dog in this type of competition, but before anyone says why are you poking in your oar, its because common sense tells anyone even not involved in  dogs that BEST COMPETE and GOOD WILL SHOULD PREVAIL among the others that are trying for best.... and another time, with good will, may be there themselves.  They can then open up their little closed world, and go to the best training grounds and train with the people that were good enough to go to the worlds, and then get their training grounds to host, and unite, and oh dear - it could go on, but its all so elementary whether you own dogs or not. 
This is a thought for everyone.   Do the folks that want to compete whether they have the top marks or not  support a football team?    How would they feel about the manager of that team sending substitutes to a big important match, because it was nice for them to go.        Mo.

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by Videx on 13 May 2010 - 18:55
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by izzi on 14 May 2010 - 18:23
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Hi BAGSD VPG
Any response to WUSV directive  re - joint selection trials  for WUSV trials 
Team selection and arrangements for WUSV 2010 need  to be  agreed and sorted soon ,venue ,judges ,helpers ,etc ,lets not let it go into school  holiday time , with excuses that the timescale is too short to get it all sorted
We need a UK team selected from the best  dog and handler teams  with a date set in the near future
Those selected also i would guess will need time to arrange time off work ,travel etc
We are all waiting
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by Videx on 14 May 2010 - 19:29
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The GSD league should initiate joint discussions on the WUSV directive - they should NOT wait for BAGSD.

In the event that BAGSD stonewall or prevaricate the GSD league should take it up with the WUSV as a matter of urgency and of the utmost seriousness.

A GSD League WDG detailed "file" should be immediately prepared on the BAGSD & BAGSD-VPG, I am certain it will be required, and very soon.
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by oggy on 14 May 2010 - 21:11
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Dear IZZY, we all know that u r making comments for a certain person.

Me fink u are under orders from club chairperson

me fink why u care, you dont compete

me think u do it because a certain person told u to

me fink u just a puppet, THINK ABOUT IT,  u no u are.
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