German Shepherd Dog > Chairman calls for KC and GSD clubs ¿to put acrimony behind us¿ (20 replies)
Chairman calls for KC and GSD clubs ¿to put acrimony behind us¿
by pacosbear on 29 April 2010 - 18:06
|Chairman calls for KC and GSD clubs ‘to put acrimony behind us’|
makes tomorrows meeting even more interesting
by missbeeb on 29 April 2010 - 18:40
Thanks for the link Pacosbear.
by Videx on 29 April 2010 - 18:47
|The Kennel Club now appear to “smell the coffee” – and have realised that the GSD League have opened up a fantastic future for our GSD exhibitors and for our breed, with their GSDL/WUSV GSD Events.|
I have it on TOP INSIDE INFORMATION that the Kennel Club are “FEARFUL” of the popularity of the GSDL/WUSV Events and have “INSTRUCTED” their PR company to place TOP Priority on wooing the GSD League back into the KC fold.
The article attached is their first attempt, you will notice the SPIN placed on the Kennel Club being the font of all knowledge and wisdom within our breed regarding health & welfare, what a load of BULL****.
Their quote regarding the largest GSD Breed Club – BAGSD. The KC should realise that they are NO LONGER the largest GSD breed Club, they claim over 1000 members, which is really around 500 members of which around half are other breeds, especially border collies. SO their GSD members are around 2to 300.
The GSD League is now rapidly approaching 1000 YES “ONE THOUSAND GSD MEMBERS”.
When the GSD league introduce CHAMPIONSHIP STATUS to their GSD Regional Events – under their own unique system, the Kennel Club have realised this will not only seriously undermine their own GSD Licensed Championship Shows, it will and it is proving VERY ATTRACTIVE to many other breeds to establish a similar independent system, FREE from the shackles of the Kennel Club.
The Kennel Club have refused to grasp the genuine integrity of the GSD League towards the Health & Welfare of our breed. This is clearly demonstrated by this article and the Kennel Clubs FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED accredited breeders scheme, which included the requirement to x-ray hips, but does not place any importance on the score, or even if the result of the x-ray proves SEVERE HIP DISPLASIA.
Several GSD Clubs who have signed the KC undertaking are planning to reconsider, as they see a fantastic future with the GSDL/WUSV GSD events – and a dismal future with KC shows.
I will predict many GSD breed Clubs will “unsign” during the next 12 months.
They can “smell the coffee”
by pacosbear on 29 April 2010 - 19:09
|I noted trawling through this other web site that an on line poll had been conducted re |
Where official health schemes are available, should it be compulsory for both parents to be tested before their progeny are registered by the Kennel Club?
The result 11 voted no and a stagering 217 voted yes
Had I seen this poll before it had closed then the yes vote would have been at least 218
I dont imagine that all 217 yes voters were from the minority of GSD and can only presume that other breeds are now supporting the Germanic GSD stance.
by crossingate on 29 April 2010 - 20:25
I also hadnt seen this poll, if I had, it would now be 219 votes for compulsory testing before progeny are registered.
by Videx on 29 April 2010 - 20:35
|Many other breeds are very interested in the "correct German Shepherd Dog" fraternities genuine, realistic and logical policies|
by Member on 29 April 2010 - 22:05
|The Kennel Club continue to say that the 21 clubs have signed to support the Health initiative's and soundness . The only reason I have heard to date from all the clubs who I know of that have signed is that they signed solely to keep the Challenge Certificates "END OF"". This is the reason and no other reason. Everything else at the couple of Championship shows which have recently taken place has stayed the same as previous, even Crufts where they believe the wrong dog was BOB. So nothing will change with the KC apart from them being able to say you cannot run a Regional Event without their permission, and why would you sign to agree to that ?? one reason only "to keep your CC`s". What can be learned tomorrow at the meeting with the KC that the genuine progressive enthusiast in our breed are not aware of already .What we we do know is they can keep their CC`s. |
by Videx on 30 April 2010 - 06:13
|I feel confident that Kennel Club CC's in our GSD breed will become almost meaningless in the near future. Superseded by something much better. When this happens I feel confident that many of those GSD Breed Clubs that support the "correct international German Shepherd Dog" will want to revisit the issue of the Kennel Club "undertaking" and in the light of developments, they will hold another vote of their members. |
When they do that, and their GSD Club decide they want to withdraw from the KC undertaking, I would strongly advise them to state in their letter to the Kennel Club that they can no longer agree to clause 9 of the undertaking and therefore they are immediately cancelling their agreement to the undertaking, however when their Club hold any KC shows in the future they will, of course, abide by all appropriate kennel club rules & regulations.
by Videx on 30 April 2010 - 06:33
| If anyone wishes to see the article from OUR DOGS on this subject please email me and I will send it by return. |
It has more detail!
by bazza on 30 April 2010 - 06:48
|After reading the KC article I only feel anger, for that reason I have no further comment at this time as it would surely be deleted!!!!!!!|
by noddi on 30 April 2010 - 07:19
|morning all.the way i read the article/statement in DOG WORLD is that the kennel club have ,once again,turned it round so that it sounds like the league have finally seen the light,when in fact they have been dealing with these issues ages before the kc used them to throw the light off their real reason DOUBLE HANDLING,NOT HEALTH AND WELFARE.i,m glad Nikki held off any comment on this article.well done.Carole S.|
by Penny on 30 April 2010 - 07:30
|Even the misguided and uncaring folk of the K.C cannot help but notice that they are now working with very few supporters and that their draconian unfair ways has done them no favours. Mo|
by Member on 04 May 2010 - 14:31
|Is preferential treatment being given to KC Accredited Breeders?. After receiving our named and numbered pedigrees from the KC we waited a few days for the registrations to arrive, realizing they may have got lost in the post we made a call inquireing if this was the case. We were told by the KC they must have gone missing and we would be sent new ones and to disregard the others if they turned up. When inquiring how long this would take we were told it could take up to another 10 days . The pups are now 7 weeks and two days old and still no registrations. When telling one of our friends who recently had a litter we were told they have had the same problem with the same story word for word. Being as we are both not accredited breeders we decided to contact another breeder who is, this was to enquire how they were doing with their registrations for puppies which were born at around the same time as ours. Surprise, not only did they get theirs within eight days of applying but informed me that another accredited breeder had just received theirs within seven days !! Am I to believe we are just unlucky or knowing that to be an accredited breeder the registrations must leave with the new owner are they being given preference?? Please can any other non accredited breeders please let me know of their recent experience with regards to the above.|
by bazza on 04 May 2010 - 17:15
|John, This is disturbing news and I hope you are wrong, but I wouldn't put anything past the KC, sadly.|
by Aileen Ann Mathieson on 05 May 2010 - 09:06
THIS IS THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION WITH SHOWS - ESPECIALLY IN SCOTLAND FOR CLUBS WHO HAVE SIGNED
LAST OPEN SHOW HELD WAS ON SATURDAY 1ST MAY
ENTRY ON PAPER WAS 56 plus 2 NFC = 58
ANIMALS ATTENDING AND ENTERED ON HE DAY = 35 (23 LESS THAN ON PAPER)
IF THE EXHIBITORS, WHO ARE PART OF THE NEW WAVE OF GSD SHOWING IN THE UK HAD NOT ENTERED THIS SHOW THE TOTAL WOULD HAVE BEEN
by Member on 06 May 2010 - 07:11
|Still no registrations, and confirmed with a phone call to the KC yesterday they are giving preference to Accredited breeders when you apply for you registrations. So once again another situation where if you pay your £15 ( more money to the KC) you can jump the queue, and the genuine breeder not wanting to be an accredited breeder as well as the unsuspecting pet owner purchasing their puppy ( now with no Registration`s to take with them) all miss out|
by Penny on 06 May 2010 - 07:33
|So they are not even capable of being a "Somerset House" without prejudice and downright bad manners - I would think John, as you paid as much for your registration as did anyone else - how can they justify it? Got the Monopoly for now thats how - but they must by now, even they and their henchman, be seeing the writing on the wall, or are they stupid enough to know that when other breeds go, AS THEY WILL finances can be collated to form a much better, well informed, and efficient registration service too - then we can still use them if we need to, and the paperwork can take 12 months because the "real" pedigree and registration will be there with the puppy - and add more value as information will lie therein, not names. Mo|
by Videx on 06 May 2010 - 09:44
|The Kennel Club continue to tread on "quicksand" - Let them sink!|
by missbeeb on 07 May 2010 - 06:18
John, this is definitely one for Trading Standards. If those not in the useless and toothless ABS, are to go to the bottom of the pile, there should be a reduced cost!
They're a disgrace!
by apoArmani on 08 May 2010 - 13:55