German Shepherd Dog > BIG heads, super dark sables, super hips. That is the problem (161 replies)
BIG heads, super dark sables, super hips. That is the problem
by Prager on 22 February 2010 - 21:52
|I just want you to know this. 98% of calls for dogs I get these days are requesting dark sable (black sable) dogs with big heads. Please keep in mind that this, just as any other fad is: |
1.narrowing down genetic pool
2. invites unintended consequences of breeding for one trade.
3. Unimportant. Color is the least important trade. It will not make your dog to be a better dog.
So please if you are buying a GSD do not worry about the color. That is if you care for the future of the GSD.
Grey sable and other colors, as long as they are deep thick colors, are also beautiful.
Here is my gray sable girl. ERIN Derik She is gray and she kicks butt.
by Ibrahim on 22 February 2010 - 21:56
|Maybe we should ask for rich pigment whether dark or not, the dog in the above picture might not be so dark but the pigment looks so rich and vivid.|
by Prager on 22 February 2010 - 22:51
|Nobody? This is an important topic!I |
Post a picture of your beautiful dog which is not "black" sable.
Here is one from me.Illo v.d. Abfuhr
by GSDalways on 22 February 2010 - 23:04
My boy almost 23 months old............
by leeshideaway on 22 February 2010 - 23:04
|Here's my pup, almost 5 months old, and she is going to kick butt someday soon. (hehe)|
by Prager on 22 February 2010 - 23:10
| OK I'll throw a monkey ranch into this. Being obsessed by to breed good hips is also bad. |
by Prager on 22 February 2010 - 23:31
|Now here is acollor which you do not see often. I have found this beautifuly collored dog on PDB.|
by sarabella on 22 February 2010 - 23:42
|You are looking for this type? Not black sable. Big head 0/0 hips. Can't make photo bigger, sorry|
by Prager on 22 February 2010 - 23:58
What I am saying it is way more dangerous than you think to demand from breeders what is in fashion like "black" sables now. Many dogs who have this color are insufficient elsewhere to begin with and on top of it if you get preoccupied with single trait breeding you will invariably be a witness of an unintended consequences. I know a breeder who was obsessed with hips and eventually produced dwarfism. We are narrowing the genetic pool if we do not learn how to compromise when we breed. The buyers are forcing the breeders into this quagmire and it is up to the breeders to educate and promote variety.
Within the breed standard.
by sarabella on 23 February 2010 - 00:01
|Ja, Prager, but is it news that buyers are fixated on what does not matter?|
by VomMarischal on 23 February 2010 - 01:08
|I know what you mean, Prager. It's like the dog has NOTHING ELSE. As long as it's black sable, has good hips, and has a big blocky raccoon-eyed head, it can cringe and hop and talk like a parrot for all anybody cares. Just one more way to screw up a WORKING BREED. It's not one shred different from the obsession with black/red in the show lines.|
by leeshideaway on 23 February 2010 - 01:18
|Sorry Prager, |
I also was looking for good health and low litter zw.
But I don't knock breeders that know what they are doing when they breed otherwise.
I got the best pup I could get regardless of color. (from the litter I chose)
Your dogs look nice.
by adlerbach on 23 February 2010 - 01:22
|Ajax vom Adlerbach, Barb|
by adlerbach on 23 February 2010 - 01:29
| Strut vom Eichenluft, BH, HOT|
by adlerbach on 23 February 2010 - 01:35
Polo z Danaru SchH3, HOT
by adlerbach on 23 February 2010 - 01:37
by mollyandjack on 23 February 2010 - 01:49
The dogs posted on this thread are all gorgeous! I love a good looking grey sable....and the black and tans, black and reds, bicolors, blacks...anything with a GSD heart basically ;)
by adlerbach on 23 February 2010 - 01:50
|Adlerbach's Ajan SchH3 HOT|
by Wingertshaus on 23 February 2010 - 02:38
by GSDtravels on 23 February 2010 - 02:53