German Shepherd Dog > Need Florida VET - HELP! (8 replies)
Need Florida VET - HELP!
by Yankee13 on 29 January 2010 - 17:22
|I have a nearly 5 month old Female German Shepherd. I do NOT want to spay her. My problem is that I cannot find a Vet anywhere around Orlando or Brevard County, that will simply do a Tubal Ligation!! I had no idea this would be such an impossible task. I have called about 20 different Vets and Hospitals and Nobody will do it. They all lecture and simply want to do the whole hysterectomy. I have even asked about just doing a partial Hysterectomy (taking Uterus, but leaving Ovaries, which is not my first choice), and nobody wants to do that either.|
If anyone can please recommend a reputable vet/surgeon that will do this simple procedure anywhere in FL (and I mean anywhere), or even in Southern GA, please let me know.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR REPLIES!!
by Lief on 30 January 2010 - 10:45
|why would you want that? what would the benefit be??|
by DebiSue on 30 January 2010 - 19:16
|If you're thinking this will stop the heat cycles, I don't think it will. If you are able to manage her during her heats and protect her from an accidental breeding why not leave her intact? It's better for her healthwise anyway. If you want to prevent her from having puppies then you will have to spay her to guarantee it but at least wait until she has had one heat cycle. It's better for her if you can wait until she is 2yrs old. |
Can you explain exactly what it is you are trying to accomplish with a tubal ligation or partial hysterectomy? If you are getting lectures then it sounds like you need an education on the subject. If you can explain why you are so dead set against spaying her, maybe someone here can better advise you on the matter.
by Robin on 30 January 2010 - 20:18
|It sounds like you don't want puppies, but my questions is what is the difference of spaying her or just having her tubes tied?? either way she will not have puppies, unless the tubal doesn't work. then what??|
I don't think that you will find a Vet that will do this it is not normal practice. It is like doing a Vasectomy on a male dog he will still have the urge but not produce what is the reason??
She will still come in heat if you do a tubal, just like woman will still have a period when they get their tubes tied. IF you do the spay NO heat,NO puppies,NO worries.
Just a thought
by Yankee13 on 31 January 2010 - 14:38
|Every breeder recommends a GSD gets to at least 1.5-2yrs old before neutering or spaying because it is advantageous for the animal to keep producing hormones while growing. The same is true for humans. Did you know for example that women live longer than men? Same is true for female dogs. However, if the hormones (ie. ovaries) are removed from a female human prior to the age of 50, she will likely only live as long as a male. Same goes for female dogs.|
Anyway, the reason I am looking for the tubal ligation, is because I don't want to give her the pill (side effects) and I travel lot. I have an elderly petsitter and sooner or later the dog will likely overpower him on a walk some day during a heat cycle. Sooo, Instead of using the pill I thought I'd try something a little more sure.
Tubal ligation is a simple procedure (easier anyway than removing entire organs). I truly do not understand why vets don't do it. I realize it's not as common or agreed upon, but why the nearly hostile resistance from every angle? I really am at a loss to understand. If it was a human being we were talking about the surgeon would do what we want after their recommendation. Just a though.
by GSDtravels on 31 January 2010 - 15:45
|Personally, I'd leave her intact and find a new petsitter! If there's a possibility that she'll get away from him, I'd be worrying about more than an accidental breeding! I would not leave my boy with anyone I don't trust to be as careful as I am. What's stopping her from getting lost, or worse yet, getting hit by a car if you can't completely trust the sitter!|
by DebiSue on 01 February 2010 - 14:00
Good point GSDtravels. I was just thinking the same thing. I don't know that I would be taking my girl out for a walk while in heat anyway. I wouldn't even let her out into the fenced backyard alone while she is in heat. She might go a little stir crazy but there are other ways to exercise a dog besides taking it for a walk.
Yankee, if you don't have a fenced yard where you can let your girl out to romp and potty, you need to find a pet sitter who can handle not only your girl while in heat but any males that come around. This just sounds like a recipe for an unwanted litter. Maybe you can find a temporary pet sitter while she is in heat if you like and trust your elderly pet sitter otherwise. What you are asking for just isn't available and even if you were to get your wish, she will still come into heat and still be a problem to handle if she meets an interested male. I can't imagine you being ok with her getting bred/tied just because she won't get pregnant. I think you need to think this thru a little more.
by Yankee13 on 02 February 2010 - 18:59
|Thank you everyone for your comments. We were merely interested in exploring our options fully. Our local vets wouldn't engage us in a real conversation about the topic, just merely said 'NO'. |
After finding a vet that would actually do the surgery (and has done them before), and finally having a real conversation about all of our concerns and options, we have elected NOT to do the procedure and just deal with one or two heats before spaying her. Even this vet agreed that there were some benefits in allowing one or two heat cycles. We had been under the impression that the tubal ligation was an easy procedure. It may be fairly simple but is still considered major surgery. Male dogs are a different story. So the thought of putting our little girl through two operations in 2 years wasn't an option we were willing to consider.
In case anyone is interested, we learned that a hysterectomy, versus spaying (which is a ovariohysterectomy) is NOT done with dogs. Works with humans but not with dogs. Learn something new every day.
by PowerHaus on 02 February 2010 - 23:24
And dogs don't take "the pilll'