German Shepherd Dog > West Yorkshire Committee threaten to stand down, if they can't have their own way. (88 replies)
by Jeevs on 29 January 2010 - 09:17
|When you stand for a committee you do so to help run the affairs of the club on behalf of the members, for whatever term of office you are elected for. Where would the dog world be if every committee member resigned because they disagreed with a vote that did not go their way? The members elect you to run the club for them, the least you can do is to see it through and if not happy do not stand for re-election when your time is up.|
by missbeeb on 29 January 2010 - 09:49
Honest Bob? Really? Peeved Bob, sounds like to me... what is it that's keeping you going on this Bob?
Now you're hounding Jim... for understanding! Well done!
Yes! Sue could have worded things better... so could YOU, Bob!
If anyone thinks that this is just a run of the mill, ordinary bit of "KC legislation" that we're talking about, (Jeevs) they're wrong! This is probably the biggest piece of KC crap we've had to deal with so far! A member of the committee is also a member! Damned if I'd sign on behalf of ANYONE or any Club in this instance and I'd have made that very clear before any vote; my resignation would have been on the table too. If other people feel differently... fine, no problem, to each his own.
Now, how about behaving like grown ups and getting over this playground crapola? There really ARE more important things for us all to be concerned with.
by bob 4 on 29 January 2010 - 10:58
First I'm opposite to you in that I would sooner write than talk face to face when it comes to this type of subject, why because I scrabble a load of words together and then put it all together at my pace, sit back and rub some out, alter and change, get my wife to over look it, so I like Sue B have the opportunity to change things, there is no place on the WORLD WIDE WEB for anyone to think they are having a private conversation, it's in the public domain. I agree with you her written command of English is not very good, she should think before she presses the SUBMIT COMMENT button as you probably did.
If you care to go back over this thread forget that you know Sue B you should see it differently. look at the words she wrote. I quote ....................>as a committee we made our decision not to sign ........ WE would have to put our signatures to this undertaking and then constantly DEAL with the KC demands, not the members .so if after hearing the reasons for our decisions the majority of the members don't agree with us,THEN THE WHOLE COMMITTEE WOULD BE STANDING DOWN and the members would have to find another committee to run the club I can tell you with soooooo many people these days fighting to serve on club committee's we can already guess what the result will be<..................... now thats "patronizing" the members, just remember this was on the Internet before the meeting for all to see, now go to the top and read what I wrote when I started this thread "With respect" " don't sound diplomatic to me" and so on, read it you will see what I'm saying, go back to the top Noddi see the returns, and please have a look at B'ham & Dist GSD UK, how Mo and the club did it so differently.
This is a shamed faced committee and all I'm asking is be big enough to put it right. .
Regards Bob 4
P>S Golf for me to day
by A Shepherd on 29 January 2010 - 11:25
|Bob Elliot havent you noticed you are the only person still banging on about this here, dont that tell you something. Sure tells me and others. I dont blame em for not wanting to wear military KC uniforms. They have a right to stand down, now do us all a favour and stick your head down a golf hole. Welsh trouble maker of extortionate proportions, who has nothing, is nothing and never will be anything.|
by bazza on 29 January 2010 - 12:13
|A.S.. Totally agree, lmfao.|
by Jean Duff on 29 January 2010 - 15:47
|Just a point a committee yes should carry out the wishes of the members but it is also expected to advise and direct its members. If the committee is not respected and their advice taken on board then what is the point of having a commitee. If the committee gets it wrong then they have to take fully responsibility but what if the membership have made the wrong decision does the committee still get the blame? I feel it right and proper for a committee to give their opinion on a issue of this importance; but they also should listen to their members; and let the opposing sides debate the issue. This still may mean the committee does not change their mind and this is something the members must be aware of. The members elected the committee and the only ting the members can do is elect a new committee and let the old one stand down! Unfortunately as has been said this whole issue is going to make more divisions within the breed much to the pleasure of those who have pushed for the KC action. I have served on committees of all sorts within dogdom for almost 40 years and could not carry on working on a committee if I was way out of line of the members. What's the point.|
by bob 4 on 29 January 2010 - 21:22
Jim, I hope Pencil's words are not right.
I write this because I believe if we can't be democratic at club level and folk spout off on the internet , as missbeeb says crapola, so is it possible West Yorks could explain themselves , bend, let the1000 hits and others on this thread have an answer and kill this page.
by missbeeb on 29 January 2010 - 21:47
|Bob, I hope you managed to hit some balls today... God knows I could hit a couple with a 3 iron myself right now! |
by jaymesie51 on 29 January 2010 - 22:52
|Bob any one who could listen to any thing pencil had to say should go and get their head looked at, as if you did'nt know pencil is the biggest shit stirrer on here he hides behind his anonamous name calls every body for everything, we all now know that he is of course an alsationist trying to get all true enthusiasts of this breed to call each other for every thing and any thing, any thing pencil says should be taken with a pinch of salt you will notice i did not reply to him as he is not worth a reply .|
by Marge on 29 January 2010 - 23:06
|Bob4 brains, as Ashepherd said you are the only one banging on about it here and you are not even a member of this club so what has it got to do with you? If the majority of members had already being consulted prior to the committee making their decision nobody was bullying anybody into agreeing with them. Had you being a club member you would have been aware of this, this is why no other club member has come on here to complain, the committee knew which way the vote would go. Thats whats called keeping in touch with your membership. In future when you feel the urge to stir your shit please restrict it to your own backyard. |
by pencil on 30 January 2010 - 00:00
|bob4-there you have it bob, jaymeise51 ?? who is he.|
he always answers with running people down that have points and questions that are a bit near the knuckle,mainly as i have said on many occassions its because he's a fence sitter and does not want to diminish his already low standing in the league of show folk.
you noticed i assume that the other big debate on epilepsy, he did not come on at once and call for all the big names to declare if their dogs were involved-that he left to others.
on this topic of west yorks club he almost fell out with his internet mate sue b- but managed to rectify matters when it probably hit home to him that she is a judge-and there you have it bob4-i would imagine he would consider mr. a shepherd a soul mate also lol !
by jaymesie51 on 30 January 2010 - 07:48
|Pencil this will be the last time I will reply to anything you have to say|
Point number 1, if you look at the thread where epilepsy was first mentioned you will see that I did in fact ask that the dogs be named that has been done so no need for me to continue I will do what most people will and that is stay away from the infected lines until they are proved safe
Point 2 I do not judge and have no aspirations to do so and if what you would have us believe about the show scene then I have nothing to scratch a back with so will not get mine scratched so another of your points quashed, and unlike you I am man enough to admit when I get something wrong
Now how about you I can tell you how I see you, you are a very sad person probably got no true friends you were most likely a spoilt child who always got their own way and now you have to live in the adult world you no longer get everything your way I don’t know if you have any dogs or ever have ( probably alsations) I think you should have called yourself walter mitty because you are most certainly of that ilk you are a jealous person who hates to see people doing what you cant, your life is racked by jealousy so you come on here with your vile pish and slag anyone you wish because you hide behind a keyboard, don’t have the guts to do it under your own name or affix (if you have one) so you can not be held accountable for what you say but you will one day, then we will all know who you are and I am sure that day will not be far away
Make the most of what time you have left under your anonymous name because it will not be long until we all know who you are.
by missbeeb on 30 January 2010 - 07:52
Good post Jim!
Do you think the big four know who it is? LOL
by Penny on 30 January 2010 - 08:30
|Who are the BIG FOUR ?? Mo|
by missbeeb on 30 January 2010 - 08:57
No idea Mo, but Pencil is always asking if the big four have signed up / commented / agreed to numerous things; quite a few of us have asked Pencil, who the big four are, but we've never had an answer!
It was a joke... Jesus, I hope somebody got it! LOL
by jaymesie51 on 30 January 2010 - 09:23
|I did Missbeeb new exactly what you ment the big four a figment of pencil's imagination|
by Blerio on 30 January 2010 - 09:38
|Probably the MARX brothers!|
by bob 4 on 30 January 2010 - 10:53
"wow" stirred up a bit of a hornets nest one thinks
Me and my mate Took all the money at golf yesterday so had a great day playing at one of the country's best golf courses.
by bob 4 on 30 January 2010 - 11:21
| Bazza, If I had to give you an Indian name it would be "Of few words of own". so I say to you the same as I said to ashepherd.|
Regards Bob Elliott. nee Bob 4.
by pencil on 30 January 2010 - 12:28
|Ah jamesie51 ( is that 51 your iq or age) so pleased you are not answering any more of my posts-now i can concentrate on those who come off the fence with some interesting posts-still you can always talk to miss beeb who is yet another fence sitter when it comes to pointing out the wrongs of the show scene.|
as for the big 4-well allegedly its been said that if you took all the major results over the past decade ( 10 yrs miss beeb )
some of those allegedly would be Gayvilles-Shootan-Tramella i will leave out no 4 to give your brain a chance to think for its self. be interesting to see if you disagree jaymesie-miss beeb-mo etc etc, actually no it would not, because you already know the big 4.