German Shepherd Dog > Cost Of Raising A Show Dog (14 replies)
Cost Of Raising A Show Dog
by hamza166 on 30 December 2009 - 19:30
My Uncle & I, wish to acquire a dog for showing. This time he wishes to require one, from top German lines, EG: from Batu, Vegas or Zamp line etc.
by VomMarischal on 30 December 2009 - 19:48
|Must be up to, what, a hundred grand total nowadays?|
by hamza166 on 30 December 2009 - 19:57
|VomMarischal if you are right, that is a lot of money for one puppy|
by VomMarischal on 30 December 2009 - 20:00
|No, that's for buying a top notch dog, raising it, training it, and campaigning it. But I'm only guessing wildly since I don't show dogs...now you know why they charge so much for puppies and stud fees.|
by VomMarischal on 30 December 2009 - 20:02
|Plus I'm being kind of flippant. However, it IS a huge investment.|
by Psycht on 30 December 2009 - 21:01
Instead asking hypothetical questions on this list, why don't you and/or your uncle contact breeders breeding the lines you want and ask them thow much their puppies run? As to the expenses of showing and raising, I know you are young but these are rudimentary questions that are easily answered when you have gotten involved in showing (and you do not need to necessarily own a dog to be involved). Asking a multitude of questions on a message board is not a replacement for hands on experience or even in depth research. You obviously have access to the internet - do research on who owns the studs you are interested in and who is breeding to them. Then contact them and inquire as to costs etc.
There are so many variables to your questions that it is unrealistic to think that there is one answer fits all response to them. Breeders charge various amounts and depending on if you show the dog yourself or if you hire a handler will affect how much it costs to campaign and/or show a dog as well as what part of the world you live in.
by Mystere on 30 December 2009 - 21:26
Unless I am very incorrect, you are in Pakistan? Would your intention be to show in Pakistan, or Pakistan AND Europe and/or the US? If Pakistan is your focus, you need to ask the breeder/exhibitors in Pakistan and/or India. That is going to impact the cost factor for training/handling/showing a great deal. Personally, I have no clue what the costs would be in Pakistan. However...
I know one show breeder/exhibitor in the US who in one year, by my estimate (which is pretty damn good!) spent over $50,000 USD in expenses just for the training, titling, showing and handling of a few dogs. The expenses rack up quickly: Travel costs; entry fees; handling fees; hotel accommodations and meals; hotel accommodations and meals for the imported handlers; vet travel certificates for the dogs; travel costs for the dogs (flying and/or cost of a dog trailer and gas. Add in a few thousand for the costs of shipping the dog(s) off to a trainer (in Germany or elsewhere) for training and titling (legitimate or otherwise). Add the boarding costs during training, along with probable vet bills.
I don't even want to get into what this person paid for the dogs she campaigned the most heavily, especially as both were run off the field in the Sieger Show they were prepped for. Can you imagine spending all that money...and having the dogs bomb like that? I don't know if I would have made it to the parking lot, before I started boo-hooing. But, I would have had one really big cry session in the vehicle...just as this breeder did!
by Xeph on 30 December 2009 - 22:23
|Mystere, if I recall correctly, hamza is Pakistani in blood, but resides in England. I'd say you're spot on with the rest though o.O|
by bazza on 31 December 2009 - 08:02
|When is everyone going to realise this is a 13 year old child living in a fantasy world with more tall tales than a childrens fairy tale book? And no that is not just my opinion, it is fact........ believe me. Xeph, you are correct he does live in the UK. PSYCHT , good post agree 100%.|
by SitasMom on 31 December 2009 - 16:53
|Life is short, let this boy, soon to be man, have his dreams....... |
When I was 13, I drempt of Showing Horses. Every other word out of my mouth had something to do with it. I'm sure that I drove every one crazy! I knew every detail about them, feeding, cleaning, showing, first aid - all from books. When as an aduly, I finally got a horse and it was a dream come true!
Much better to dream about dogs, or horses in my case, then so many other things that kids and adults seem to dwell on now days.
by Liesjers on 31 December 2009 - 18:55
|1) Yes, Zamp is still breeding. My friend/breeder has a litter of Zamp puppies, they are about 3 months old.|
2) Not sure, depends on the breeder and what they charge, whether they know you, etc
3) For me it is no different than raising any other dog, other than some additional show supplies and the cost for show entries and a handler. I show in UKC and show my dog myself (no pro handling is allowed). For SV type shows, a friend handled him for his first several shows and did not charge since she just started handling. For the USA Sieger Show last spring, his handler cost $100. For any other show where I pay a handler from another team, they charge the entry fee (plus I tip). The only additional supplies I needed for showing were a Fursaver for the SV shows and I use a thin collar/lead combo for my UKC shows. For grooming all I do is bathe and blow dry my dog the night before, trim his nails, clean his ears, and brush him out good. I do all of this myself. Oh and there's also some additional costs for paperwork like getting the pedigree certified by the WDA, being members of the WDA and USA, registering the dog with these orgs (as well as the AKC and the UKC).
Now if you are talking about buying a dog, shipping it somewhere else, and having someone else professionally train and handle it being heavily campaigned in the show ring....can't help you there!
by robert 33 on 31 December 2009 - 20:26
|I try not to think of what it has cost or what it will cost in the future, it will just make me ill. I just think it the best thing i have ever done,and you cant put a price on that.|
by bazza on 01 January 2010 - 01:11
|I certainly do not have a problem with anyone having dreams. But when those dreams become fictisious tales and outright lies that is completely different. If you would do as much homework on posters as you do with your " other" threads maybe you would learn something. If you do not mind being taken for a fool by a child then that's fine, i will call it every time i see him telling outright lies. Of course that's something you are a master at yourself so it is understandable you will defend his lies. It is a pet hate of mine, sorry!!!!! I can't wait to see the photo's and pedigree of this puppy, hope it is not like Jain, who has now been removed from the database, why don't you ask him why Jain was removed, you will just love it!!!!!!! |
by smc on 01 January 2010 - 16:15
A PUP BOUGHT FROM EVEN THE BEST LINES CAN NOT BE GUARANTEED TO BE A WINNER IN THE SHOW RING AS MANY OF US KNOW THE BEST THING TO DO IS BUY WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD AND HOPEFULLY BREED YOUR OWN AS FOR COST IN RAISING AND TRAINING HOW LONG IS A PIECE OF STRING.YOUNG MAN YOU SHOULD FIND THE NEAREST GSD BREEDER IN YOUR AREA AND GO AND HELP THEM WITH THERE DOGS AND GET SOME HANDS ON EXPERIENCE THAT CANNOT BE GAINED FROM A COMPUTER I WISH A YOUNG PERSON WHO WAS AS KEEN AS YOU LIVED NEAR ME
by bazza on 01 January 2010 - 18:35
|I agree about the keen youngsters. Over the years we have had quite a few here helping and gaining hands on knowledge. Some have went on in the GSD world some have not, but everyone of them were HONEST AND TRUST WORTHY, something i must have from anyone involved with my dogs. Oh! and they also must be GENUINE!!|