German Shepherd Dog > Can a fully trained GSD kept in door ? (17 replies)
Can a fully trained GSD kept in door ?
by Edmund Lee on 27 November 2009 - 20:45
I need some opinions from the expert, Is It possible to kept a fully trained GSD (schH3) in door ? That mean the dog will sleep together with me , live with me and I'll treat the dog like my personal body guard. But I have 2 young kids, my maid at home and will got lot of guest come to visit offen. So do you think is fine ? Pls give me some advice.
by Jessie James on 27 November 2009 - 21:22
|I think it would be fine to keep the dog inside. I wouldn't leave the dog unsupervised though. If the dog is trained well then the dog shouldn't bite or go after anyone unless told to. When you have a bunch of people coming over I would just put him in a crate or in a room.|
by DebiSue on 27 November 2009 - 21:23
|Do you already own this dog? If so, did you raise it from a pup and did you train it yourself? Or are you planning on purchasing this dog already titled? There are a lot of things to take into consideration and it depends on how well you know the dog and how well the dog knows you and the kids, maid and guests. I myself keep my dog indoors. She only goes out when someone can go with her. I've had her since she was 8wks old and we have no kids but the neighbor kids often come by to socialize. I think a properly trained dog can be kept indoors, absolutely. I don't know how young your children are but it is never a good idea to leave kids and dogs alone unless they are very familiar with each other and they trust each other. Your maid may quit you however. I don't care how often you brush a GSD there is going to be hair...a LOT of hair everywhere. |
by Edmund Lee on 27 November 2009 - 21:31
|I not yet have the dog, but is planing to purchase one from the dog breeder, my kids is 5 and 6 years old. eemmh.. So is mean that, the trick is "how well do you bond with the dog" right ?|
by Red Sable on 27 November 2009 - 21:38
Your maid may quit you however. I don't care how often you brush a GSD there is going to be hair...a LOT of hair everywhere.
All the best!
by DebiSue on 27 November 2009 - 21:42
|Yes, and it won't be overnight. You need to establish up front with the dog that you are the alpha and what you say goes. Once he knows that you and the children are above him in the pack and he understands his place you should be fine. Ummm, is this going to be your first GSD? What other breeds have you owned? A GSD that does not have a strong owner will end up being the pack leader...and you won't like where he leads you. Does the breeder offer any training/classes for you and the dog? I would strongly recommend you work with this dog for several sessions before bringing him home. When I say a strong owner I don't mean that you strong-arm him, I mean that when he hesitates to respond to a command that you are quick to recognize a challenge and swift to correct him.|
by Setanta on 28 November 2009 - 01:03
|Can you define what you mean by 'keep indoors'? Would he/she be walked etc outdoors and how much? Why do you want this dog? Just for protection? Do you have any experience fo training/owing a GSD? What do you mean by 'sleeping' with the dog? This could be very confusing for the dog in terms of establishing your role in the pack. Without further information your questions are, are first glance, quite worrying to me.|
by Setanta on 28 November 2009 - 01:05
|PS 'how well you bond with our dog' is not the trick at all! I'm worried.............|
by windwalker18 on 28 November 2009 - 03:31
|It also depends on how clear headed and mentally sound the dog is. MANY police dogs are kept at home with their handlers, and retire to become full time pets... still others are too quick on the bite (as in your kids playing with the neighbors kids and mistaking horseplay for your kids being in danger... ) and would require 24/7 supervision even if they liked kids.|
by jletcher18 on 28 November 2009 - 05:22
|i have several titled dogs that live in my house. granted we raised and trained them ourself, so they know the rules. would i bring in a new dog and allow them free roam? not untill i know that i can trust them.|
2 cents spent
by steve1 on 28 November 2009 - 08:27
|Why is it that just because some people buy a German shepherd dog they think it will automatically protect them and there family, If you want a dog and expect them to do that you need a fully trained dog already and i do not mean in the sport of Schutzund it needs to be trained for that purpose then those type of dogs usually run free out doors guarding premises|
To get a dog to do what you require i.e stick up for you then you need a VERY strong BOND to that dog and you need to bring it up as a Puppy, so it grows with the family
I own two German Shepherd Dogs one a Pup, and one 2.5 years old boughtup from 8 weeks old
The older one has proven he will look after me already and only by accident, People coming to visit and we were in the garden , My Dogs live outdoors and one ran towards me the dog was in his pen but he came to the bars his back went up and he stood there eyes fixed on the Guy and a rumble in his throat as a warning i guess.
The Guy moved back and the dog relaxed and moved away but kept his eyes on the Guy.
But i do not want my dogs to protect me or i should say i do not expect them to, IT is for me to protect them from harm and that i would do should the need arise, But you can never bank on being protected, If you need that sort of protection where you live then the Police are not doing there job or the authorities are not
For you i think you should get a Puppy to grow with your family and bond in a natural way, But do not get any dog just for a reason to be protected, The dog will need as much care as you give your children certainly no less, treat it as part of the family and you may be rewarded, in fact i know you will
and if you get a Puppy you will have plenty of help rearing it correctly if you ask for it on this forum, for there are some very knowledgable Guys on here who will help you all they can
by DebiSue on 28 November 2009 - 12:48
|Very well said Steve. I myself have a gun for protection. My dog is for sport and companionship...or for driving me crazy.|
by shepherdpal on 28 November 2009 - 15:56
|What Steve said!!!|
by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 28 November 2009 - 17:28
|Yes, it's possible for a sch3 dog to live indoors. Many of them do.|
But, just reading your questions and the way your post is worded, maybe not for you. It's a gradual process and it does not happen overnight.
You also, have to PLEASE understand that the dog can love you to death(as a pack member) but may not respect you as a pack leader. There is a big difference there.
If you answer these few, I might have a better understanding here.
1) Have you ever owned a German Shepherd?
2) Have you ever trained a German Shepherd?
3) Have you ever owned and trained a Schutzhund 3 German Shepherd?
4) Are you a male of a female?
5) Are you going to vigorously exercise said dog forat least 2 hours EVERY day, rain or shine?
6) What is your understanding of the way dogs think? Specifically, about pack structure (your family) and how dogs view that?
7) Why specifically do you want aSchutzhund 3 dog? Why notjust A dog? Wy German Shepherd, why not lab? Why not Schutzhund 2 or a Schutzhund 1 dog? Or untrained dog?
There is a lot more questions, but this will do for now.
by Keith Grossman on 28 November 2009 - 18:14
|" I don't care how often you brush a GSD there is going to be hair...a LOT of hair everywhere."|
Whenever someone asks me about the hair, I tell them that my dogs only shed twice a year...for about six months each time.
by snajper69 on 29 November 2009 - 01:04
|Bodyguard? I hope you understand that SCHIII dogs are not protection dogs but rather sport dogs? |
Sleep with you? hmmm so who is going be the alpha dog he or you? No dog in mine sleeps with me, I think you need to do more homework before going ahead with your decision. There is a difference between one dog that is SCHIII and other, some maybe extremly pray driven, and dominant than others, the dominant need expxerience handler, someone that is strong enough to assume the role of alpha. Are you surre you that person? No offense bud, but you are not ready, if you have to ask these basic question, step back think, research and than make decision. Hope this helps.
by Xeph on 29 November 2009 - 06:07
|Sleep with you? hmmm so who is going be the alpha dog he or you?\|
Sorry, I must disagree with this. My dog sleeps in bed with me and he understands the rules perfectly fine.
As for the dog sleeping inside with you, a lot depends on what many other people mentioned. If you had raised this dog yourself from a puppy I'd say there'd be no issue.
by steve1 on 29 November 2009 - 07:12
|Dogs are for companionship mostly there are not bought into this world to protect the Owner, You folk can have a gun over there to protect you if you feel you need one, I cannot have a Gun and i do not expect my Shepherds to Protect me Why should i risk them first,|
If i am held up at gunpoint then i have little chance and my dogs would have no more chance than me. So where is the Protection,
If some one comes for me with just the tools he was born with hands and feet, then i do not have a problem with that at all and i do not need my dogs to protect me them unless the odds are too great in numbers of people
If you want a Dog to guard your business premises whist you are not there then there are trained dogs for that purpose a Schutzund Dog is not trained for that
I repeat and as Adi says you do not need a German Shepherd Dog, a Lab or such will bark and be a deterrent but please do not get any dog in your home for the wrong reasons for the dog suffers in the end