German Shepherd Dog > Just lost our baby. (33 replies)
by windwalker18 on 07 August 2010 - 05:58
|It's been years since Fawn passed from Bloat... but I know your feelings. We rushed her to the Vet where I had worked for 25 years, and did emergency Surgery @ 1 in the AM. After closing everything seemed fine, we were cleaning up and preparing to remove her from the O2... when she just stopped breathing.... The surgery went great, but the shock to her system was too great. I was right there in surgery assisting, but couldn't do a thing... *sigh*|
Bloat is one of several real scarey GI events... another is Bowel Intersuseption where it telescopes upon itself and becomes necrotic...
by SEZ1971 on 07 August 2010 - 09:45
|So sorry for your loss, i have 3 gsd and i am very aware of bloat. I was looking after a neighbours dogue de bordeaux which got bloat and died very quickly before my very eyes. It was horrific and i felt powerless whilst waiting for the emergency vet to arrive as there was no way i could of carried her to the car as i was alone in the house and she was a big dog!.It is a horrible thing which i never want to witness again and i hope and pray my own dogs never get it. So sorry x|
by blackfurbabe on 07 August 2010 - 14:14
|I am new to posting on the group,|
Firstly i would like to say i am very sorry for the loss of your beloved dog,
thank you for sharing your experience at this very sad time,
after reading a few post's i see someone has added a webpage that explains the condition,
and gives advice on what to do.
A big Thankyou to those who posted on this subject.
I hope i never have to experience bloat with my dogs.
by oak34 on 07 August 2010 - 17:40
|sorry for your loss|
by malshep on 07 August 2010 - 17:49
|I am so sorry for your loss, please allow us to hold your shoulders up for awhile because you at this point do not have enough strength in them to hold up your own. We are here for you because we have all been there and will be there, we love all our dogs deeply. The first few weeks are the hardest, they are gone in the physical way but remember they cared so much for us they will not leave us in spirit, take to your pup and tell them you still love them. Hold tight to the good memories, they will comfort you. Again I am so sorry.|
by rottguy1980 on 07 August 2010 - 18:00
|I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. I wish you and your family my best.|
by Abby Normal on 07 August 2010 - 19:24
|So very sad, and I am so very very sorry for you all. I think that Bloat is something that is always on every GSD owners mind, because even if you get them to the vet quickly, the outcome isn't always good, just as windwalker says.|
I have the symptoms of bloat posted up in my home office, just so everyone in the household could quickly see them if something out of the norm happened with the dogs when I wasn't there. It's good of you to raise the awareness, having just experienced such pain.
My thoughts are with you.
by Krazy Bout K9s on 08 August 2010 - 18:24
|Also so sorry for your loss, remember your good times with him. |
I have had 2 dogs go through the bloat surgery, thank God they both came through...
The first one, I knew what was wrong, rushed him to the vet, he said no he was fine, I said x-ray him and you will see he is in the first stages, couple of hours later he called, he could have died in that time, sure enough he said I was right, needless to say I changed vets...
The second was just a year ago, he tried once brought him in, other vet said okay. Two weeks later, same symptoms, he went through the surgery....came through but I was a basket case the whole time...
People please just watch for symptoms...tummy problems, get them in ASAP!!!!
Montana GSD Rescue
by 3Shep2 on 09 August 2010 - 12:48
|So sorry for your lost-my 11 year old male is a bloat survivor @ 4 years of age-have done some major research-changed food products-feed multiple times-try to restrict activites before and after feeding and keep Pepcid and Zantac on hand at all times-keep all dogs under observation and am basically on first name bases with the teams at the UMVTH-20 miles from home.|
I've been having" too much fun" this year with gastrointestinal blockages from the most common items-dogs don't move without supervision.
by poseidon on 09 August 2010 - 13:22
|So sorry for your loss Keef and family.|
Reading your account of what happened that evening with Viggo has got me thinking about the two occassions my GSD displayed similar discomfort. She started by pacing the room and then licking the floor obsessively. I let her out into the garden and she dived into munching grass for several minutes. I was concerned but wasn't sure whether it was bloat or just indigestion. Later that night, she regurgitated the semi digested grass and was fine for the rest of the night.
I wonder if that was an early indication for bloat? I am worried now having read a few of the other posters I wonder how I could distinguish the symptoms between bloat and indigestion.
Brace yourselves with all the good memories of your beloved ones.
RIP Viggo x.
by Renofan2 on 09 August 2010 - 13:48
I struggle with the same thing. Last year Falon exhibited the same signs as you describe, however her stomach was not enlarged. I called the er vet and they said that she was definately displaying signs of early bloat, so I rushed her in. Her exray showed the stomach was increased in size, but no flip. They treated her with meds and she was fine to go home the next day. Molly just went thru the same but her stomach was huge. Xrays showed her stomach was much larger than Falons, however stomach did not flip. Vet thought that her potential for flipping was much stronger than Falon's. Luckily they treated her with meds and she was also fine the next day. I keep wondering if I am the idiot who keeps rushing my dogs in with bad stomach aches, but then I keep thinking what if that one time I did not and they needed the surgery.
I think having pepsid around at all times is good. I also try to limit exercise, feed several meals per day, etc., but both times it just came out of nowhere and both were late at night - around midnight when I realized what was happening.
by Krazy Bout K9s on 09 August 2010 - 14:24
|It usually happens late at night. Please watch your dogs that are displaying symptoms now. That is what happened to my personal dog Beau. First time displaying signs, Xrayed found gas but not turning, 2 weeks later, it turned, luckily he came to me for relief and I rushed him in surgery went till 3am.....they sewed the stomach to the wall, so it can't turn again, which is common now...at least it won't twist....still watch for bloat with him though...|
These dogs that have the predisposition, will turn sometime...they have done studies on dogs and purposely turned their stomach and on a non-predispositioned dog, the stomach turns itself back to where it should be, so hereditary is a factor here.
Sorry in a hurry and not explaining myself well...we need Hodie here to explain the scientific view better....
by Kalibeck on 09 August 2010 - 17:05
Actually, heredity is a factor in that deep chested dogs are ALL predisposed to bloat....according to our vet-surgeon. Also what you feed, how you feed, how irritable your dog's digestive system is, parasites, etc. It is a 'perfect storm' situation, so that when you combine a few of the very common factors together, you have the problem. All our GSDs have deep chests, some more so than others. My vet also said that the younger the dog, the poorer they do once some necrosis of the GI system has occurred. He said that young dogs immune systems are not developed enough to fight a full blown sepsis, & that even if the necrotic bowel is removed, the pup would not survive. With bloat, as opposed to intersusseption, you can not create a surgical anastomy of the stomache, as can be done with the bowel, so gastric torsion is far more serious. A dog's GI tract is not attached to the wall of the perineum, so it can flop around in there under the best of circumstances. Gastroplexy &/or bowel plication stabilizes the stomache &/or bowel against the inner wall of the abdomen, a lot of stitching or stapling, & it's not a guarantee, but it offers some protection for those very deep chested dogs. Still, owners need to be vigilant for the signs & symptoms of gastric torsion or bowel intersusseption. We were lucky, we caught it in our girl in time.
So sorry for your loss. jackie harris
by poseidon on 09 August 2010 - 17:47
|Thanks for the advice and caution about the early signs of bloat. I will be more vigilant about her stomach and watch for any distension. BTW is it common that the dogs eat grass to try and alleviate the discomfort?|