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by Prager on 22 July 2010 - 14:34 |
| Hi guys this is Debbie.....I am the soon to be Mrs. Prager:) And Hans calls me lovingly his wife already.What does this have to do with anything?! I also have nothing to hide.... I had the domaim Rockin Red Ranch for a short time but was never a corporation. I thought of selling Australian Shepherds and showing off pictures of my horses, but life got in the way. What does this have to do with anything?! For anyone who cares I do have a "ding" on my nursing license. I was given wrong information by my boss and that led to a problem which I will gladly share with anyone who cares. I will post it here too if you want! I did not fight the nursing board or my employer as my father was dying of lung cancer and brain tumor. Also going through the divorce. Debbie |
Prager by mtndawg on 22 July 2010 - 14:43 |
| Everybody has "dings" of one sort or another. |
mtndawg by Prager on 22 July 2010 - 15:15 |
double post I am sorry. |
by mkwellborn on 22 July 2010 - 15:52 |
| Hans, Believe it or not this whole things actually make me want to buy my next pup from you! My husband and I have been considering adding a czech line shepherd to our family within the next two years. |
by Prager on 22 July 2010 - 16:26 |
In response to shilorescue |
by Prager on 22 July 2010 - 16:27 |
| Again none of my dogs or pups or the mother has hook worms. I have never have positive test for hookworms. Hookworms survive on sandy soil and will die in sun. I have here clay and concrete. According to wiki hookworms can not survive in clay. Rainfall averages must be more than 1000 mm (40 inches) a year. Only if these conditions exist can the eggs hatch. Dogs get infested by larvae not eggs and there is no 1000mm of rainfall here. Rainfall in Phoenix AZ averages 210 mm. Hook worms die almost immediately on exposure to direct sunlight or extreme dryness. (Like in AZ?) N. americanus and A. duodenale eggs can be found in warm, moist soil where they will eventually hatch into first stage larvae. (like in Ohio?) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookworm Also you say that:"To you, Blabla, with all of the knowedge you proclaim to have about dogs, it's shocking to hear that you don't know that hookworms are not shed in the feces, only the eggs are, and they are micrscopic, you can't see them." ( Spelling problems?) I have never said that. You made that up like many things. I have said that you have probably seen round worms and thought that they are hook worms. I know you can not see the hookworms but only their eggs under the microscope. Sonia I feel trully sorry for you and I will pray for you. You are obviously very sad person. Again I state here . SEND THE PUP BACK AND I WILL REFUND THE MONEY WHICH YOU PAYED FOR THE PUP AND THE SHIPPING TO YOU AND BACK TO ME.
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by charlie319 on 22 July 2010 - 19:23 |
| Hans: This person you sold the pup to really has outed herself here as someone not to do business with. Live & Learn.... |
charlie319 by Judy P on 22 July 2010 - 19:31 |
| Hans you do not know me personally, but after all of this I would be willing to drive from Michigan to Ohio and get your puppy back. This woman is crazy, I have spoken to you by phone about a couple of dogs you have and when I can add one I willl be back in touch. My impression of you was that you were an honest person and one I felt I could trust. |
Judy P by sueincc on 22 July 2010 - 20:39 |
sueincc by Papas Fritas on 22 July 2010 - 21:11 |
| Am I correct in understanding that AlpineK9's registration papers have been destroyed in two flooding incidents spaced at least ten years apart? I realize that there is seasonal flooding in AZ, but it is predominantly an arid state... It has a desert. |
Papas Fritas by Prager on 22 July 2010 - 21:18 |
| No, our papers got destroyed one time I believe in 1999 . And that is what we are talking about here . My status with AKC had been since reinstated. Prager Hans |
by Papas Fritas on 22 July 2010 - 21:23 |
| Never mind... I misunderstood her post. Respectfully, Papas |
by sueincc on 22 July 2010 - 21:45 |
by sueincc on 22 July 2010 - 21:57 |
by mobjack on 22 July 2010 - 22:01 |
| I've known for quite a while that Hans had a problem with the AKC and had been banned. To the best of my knowledge, this has never been a secret and Hans has never tried to hide it from anyone. I called Hans a few years ago inquiring about purchasing a particular dog and Hans himself told me about it. Hans told me of the problem, what was being done about it and assured me I would get the AKC papers and any FCI import papers on any dog or pup I purchased from him. Did this influence my decision to buy a dog from Hans? Absolutely! And in favor of dealing with him. Any man honest enough to freely offer all this information unasked is a straightforward honest man in my book. shilorescue I'm sorry you're not happy with the pup. If you're not happy with him or really believe he's unhealthy or a dwarf, send him back to Hans. Hans has offered to refund your purchase price and the shipping costs in full. Most breeders will refund only your purchase price if you're not happy with a pup. But Hans has gone over and beyond that and offered to pay you for the shipping both ways and hire an attorney to hold the money in escrow for you since you don't trust him to send it. You will not get a better deal anywhere from anyone. Why keep spending money on vet bills for a pup you're not happy with? Why keep a dog you don't like and make the dog suffer for it? If you don't like the dog now, you're not going to like him any more later down the road. Hans stands behind his pups so why not give him the opportunity to do it? Send the dog, get your money back and you and the dog will be happier then if you continue on this course. |
by mtndawg on 22 July 2010 - 22:17 |
| I feel like Sueincc has something to say. |
by Pharaoh on 22 July 2010 - 23:38 |
| Hans, Some time this fall I will be visiting friends just a bit north of Phoenix. I sure hope to be able to stop by for a visit. Don't let this get you down. Michele |
Pharaoh by GSDtravels on 23 July 2010 - 00:46 |
I don't understand why she's holding the pup for "evidence". Evidence of what? If she takes you to court and they find you were willing to refund all of her monies, they'll laugh her out the door and she'll end up paying your court costs! As a matter of fact, even if everything she says is true (which obviously neither I nor anyone else here believes), all she could hope to recoup is her money back, so I still don't understand why she'd keep the pup if she's unhappy. It doesn't make any sense. |
GSDtravels by shilohgdrescue on 23 July 2010 - 01:08 |
| So, here is a photo, taken July 22, 2010 of the pup purchased from Alpine K9 and received on May 24, 2010, with our own solid black, 4 year-old female, Mercedes. This pup was allegedly whelped on 3/11/10, which makes him 19.5 weeks old in this photo, nearly 20 weeks or 5 months old. He weighs 22 pounds and is 14 inches tall. According to all of the German Shepherd growth charts, this pup has now achieved 66% of his adult weight, which means fully grown, he will reach a weight of 33-34 pounds. Mercedes weighs 60-62 pounds. In the event Blabla tries to claim this is NOT the pup he sold me, he stated to me that he tattoos all of his pups so they can always be positively identified. Photo was taken ooutside one of the kennel areas and yes it is muddy, we've had a lot of rain. I couldn't get many shots because he was afraid of Mercedes and she kept trying to flip him onto his back and I was afraid of him being injured.  |
by mobjack on 23 July 2010 - 01:42 |
| shilohgsdrescue I'll ask you again. Why don't you just send the pup back? In my prior post above: I'm sorry you're not happy with the pup. If you're not happy with him or really believe he's unhealthy or a dwarf, send him back to Hans. Hans has offered to refund your purchase price and the shipping costs in full. Most breeders will refund only your purchase price if you're not happy with a pup. But Hans has gone over and beyond that and offered to pay you for the shipping both ways and hire an attorney to hold the money in escrow for you since you don't trust him to send it. You will not get a better deal anywhere from anyone. Why keep spending money on vet bills for a pup you're not happy with? Why keep a dog you don't like and make the dog suffer for it? If you don't like the dog now, you're not going to like him any more later down the road. Hans stands behind his pups so why not give him the opportunity to do it? Send the dog, get your money back and you and the dog will be happier then if you continue on this course. Do the simple, right thing and simply send the dog back and get your money back. |
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