German Shepherd Dog > stock coat.... (18 replies)
by judron55 on 06 February 2010 - 18:07
|Anyone showing a stock coat? How do people feel about the stock coat? I have a female I'm considering keeping a female and the best pup is a stock coat. She is gorgeous in my opinion. Anyone working one in schutzhund?|
by crhuerta on 06 February 2010 - 18:37
The term "stock coat"...means it has a correct/normal coat.
by crhuerta on 06 February 2010 - 18:39
|Do you mean..."long stock.coat"?......|
by hamza166 on 07 February 2010 - 14:37
|Send a pic please|
by judron55 on 07 February 2010 - 14:50
|Soory folks...I do meal long stock or could be long...I'll send picture!|
by Red Sable on 07 February 2010 - 14:56
Who decides wether or not it is a stockcoat, the breeder, the judge?
by crhuerta on 07 February 2010 - 15:26
The breeder should know if their puppies are "long stock coats" or "normal stock coats".......thats the breeders job to know such things.......although, it can be challenging at times.
There is no such "proper" coat term as "Plush Coats".......it's just another "made" term to describe the looks of a coat,...such as (flat, tight, short, open, etc..etc...)
The only three recognized correct terms are......
1) Stock Coat (normal/proper coat with undercoat)
2) Long Stock Coat (long coated dog with undercoat)
3) Long Hair Coat (long haired dog without correct undercoat) This coat type is a disqualifying fault.
The ultimate stock coat is thick, coarse and has some length to the guard hairs.
Long stock coats have more.......they have hair in & behind the ears, some have much fuller tails, feathering on legs, feet and hind quarters.......the length & fullness of body hair varies from dog to dog.......
Until recently....in SV Conformation Shows.....a long stock coated dog would be placed at the rear of any class.
Hope that helps...
by Red Sable on 07 February 2010 - 16:31
by Blkdog on 08 February 2010 - 07:02
|I was told recently by a lady from Germany that a Plush coat is considered a Stock coat in Germany. I don't understand the whole stock coat thing myself. I have a male that has a longer than normal coat, with thick feathers on his back end and a full tail. I asked her if he was a plush coat and she said that Plush was a stock coat. So at this point I've heard so many things I myself am confused...|
What do you all think he is?
by Red Sable on 08 February 2010 - 11:07
|I'd say he is a stock coat. (nice dog btw!)|
Personally, I don't think the breeder is always right, and if you show it, than the judge will be the deciding factor.
I have no problem with a dog being a LSC, if the structure and temperament is right.
I'll get a recent picture of mine today and show you her coat.
by crhuerta on 08 February 2010 - 13:14
Your dog in the picture is a stock coated dog.......which means: Normal/correct coat.
PLUSH is only a term that people are used to saying to describe different "looks and texture" to a normal coated dog......it means nothing more. There is no correct term in Germany as a "plush" stock coated German Shepherd dog.
On their pedigrees.....it will only state.....(Stock Coat, Long Stock Coat or Long Hair Coat).....
Nice dog...best wishes!
by K9Sport on 08 February 2010 - 15:58
For what it's worth, if the best puppy was a long stock coat, I'd definitely work it in Schutzhund. Pretty is as pretty does :)
A good dog is a good dog is a good dog ;)
by Blkdog on 10 February 2010 - 17:02
|Thanks... I thought he was a normal coat, it is a bit longer but it is still tight fitting to his body! Not to mention he has a really thick winter coat now! Thanks for the info, and helping me clear it up! |
Pretty girl... I love her colors!!!
by Red Sable on 10 February 2010 - 18:57
|Thanks Blkdog! Your boy is very handsome too! Do you also have a black dog? (hence your name? )|
by VomMarischal on 10 February 2010 - 19:04
|To me, long coated dogs always feel like ALL they have is undercoat...really long undercoat and no topcoat. Feel spider-webby.|
by Red Sable on 10 February 2010 - 19:14
|Ya, they have a soft coat, and don't seem to have as coarse of guard hairs.|
by Blkdog on 12 February 2010 - 14:37
by Mystere on 12 February 2010 - 15:33
|One of the reason some breeders charge more for the long coats is because there is such a demand for the coats from (primarily?) pet homes, that some breeders actually have waiting lists for the long coat puppies. I suspect that may increase with the SV change that will allow them to be shown in SV-style shows.|
by Blkdog on 12 February 2010 - 17:47
|I have over the years had many calls on long coats, but I have never produced any. I think some long coats are very nice looking and then there are some that are not that appealing to me... Jmho...|