German Shepherd Dog > what do you think? (39 replies)

by GrimReaper0772 on 02 July 2012 - 17:10
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Ok,  I happen to know both of these breeders (tts & Barb)  I know 1st hand that tts, Wendy Bird is NOT a good breeder. She is nothing more than a puppy mill, breeding her dogs from their 1st heat until they can't produce anymore.  I would not ever tell someone to go to her. I will tell them to go to Barb. She doesn't breed but every other year. 1 or 2 litters ONLY. As for working for a Vet, yes she does. Wendy doesn't know everything about everyone like she wants all to believe. She has badmouth just about everyone she has come into contact with. She wants all to believe she is the best of the best. I feel nothing but pity for Wendy. She is one that can't take the bad with the good. Could be because she is more bad than good.
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by 4 mals2sheps on 02 July 2012 - 17:13
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Well Hello Wendy,Oh yes I did start this thread after you said you would place pup so I can take it to my boss Oh by the Way I do work for a VET but you would not know because all you have done was cut other breeders down in your conversation on phone  and say how you hate this dog (X-Box) has name changed due to you changing ped. on here .Well the only reason I asked for papers was my freind who you tell lies to also asked me to incase pup got better and I could find a new home .But thats not what this really is about is it Wendy shall we go to the other thread OH! better not she is going to sue me so she tells people but see I use no names , remember what your lawyer said don't put things in writing ..
  And heres a clue Wendy , the pups I put on my site that suppose to be born are not that was put on there for you because we know how you hate the 2 people who get this, are down for pups jokes on you
  I for one do not live off my dogs I work almost every day you my dear have only been working for afew weeks
according to you . And folks if you don't think this is also about me going to her vet for always finding a reason to put down dogs, but the jokes on you again Wendy ....I don't need to pay for a VET  any body need info about me please ask I have nothing to hide...  and to answer a question about VNN1 I asked that to on conformation site someone said a puppy title . Wendy you best leave me alone cause now you used my name on a public forum ..

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by GrimReaper0772 on 02 July 2012 - 17:30
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Wendy is a joke.
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by Keith Grossman on 02 July 2012 - 17:39
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I think I've made it abundantly clear on this forum what my minimum expectations are for a breeder so it's a safe assumption that I wouldn't buy a dog from either of these women on a bet.  Neither seems very honest from my perspective.
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by 4 mals2sheps on 02 July 2012 - 17:44
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Okay ! That is your right carry on ...
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by GrimReaper0772 on 02 July 2012 - 17:47
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Barb is honest.  I know this for a fact. I have never caught Barb in a lie,  Wendy,  several times. Oh &  Keith, I am a breeder. I have high standards for what I put out. And I am buying a pup from Barb this fall.
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by Keith Grossman on 02 July 2012 - 19:08
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In this post: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=614164#177060 Barb seems to imply that she isn't a breeder with the statement, "All I can say is  WOW I would not want to be a breeder of any breed !!!"  She clearly is a breeder and apparently does or has bred dogs of other breeds as well.
 
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by GrimReaper0772 on 02 July 2012 - 19:22
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So?  I also breed Chihuahua's too. What does that have to do with breeding German Shepherd correctly?
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by 4 mals2sheps on 02 July 2012 - 19:23
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Yes, keith what ever you say go have your investigation.....but please get your information right.
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by Keith Grossman on 02 July 2012 - 19:26
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I was replying to your claim that Barb is honest.  As far as your, or her, definition of correctly breeding the German Shepherd Dog, I have written much on the subject here which I'm sure you can find if you search for it.  To say that I absolutely disagree would be an understatement.
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by GSDPACK on 02 July 2012 - 19:26
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I still want to know what VVN 1 means.....
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by 4 mals2sheps on 02 July 2012 - 19:34
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GSdPack, I bought this dog it was all ready on here and I too asked what it was found out on conformation site it was a puppy title that's all  I know.
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by GSDPACK on 02 July 2012 - 19:37
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it got my curiosity, I am going to find out.,... lol

thanks
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by 4 mals2sheps on 02 July 2012 - 19:44
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GSDPack
  when you find out please let me know ...
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by GSDPACK on 02 July 2012 - 19:49
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Well I just did, it was meant to be VN the equivalent to VP and it is a show rating for a puppy. There is not such a thing as VVN1... it makes it sound like she has a title, she doesn;t she is already SG/vd and if she had VD in Slovakia I can find out but that is not my dog, I was only curious about the VVN1... which is not an existing anythig. I see how she can be an SG if she had no title on her and she was a V quality dog.

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by 4 mals2sheps on 02 July 2012 - 19:54
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Thanks she is a he .
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by GSDPACK on 02 July 2012 - 20:02
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Oh sorry!
The dog is listed under females on the tts website so I did not "investigate" any further, we are probably not talking about the same dog. I just glanced at the TTS website and saw VVN1 (SK) Unda Dlha Roven. Which after the dog turns two is not really something that is a custom to advertise (unless nothing more has been acomplished). Then they go on to titles and ratings after titles, AD and so on...

It is the same as people write IPO1, IPO2, IPO3.. it is only logic a dog with IPO3 has the previous levels done. But that is just my opinion..

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by 4 mals2sheps on 02 July 2012 - 20:11
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No problem that is Wendy Birds site mine is Conan Z Adamovoho Dvora VN5 still was told puppy title..
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by GSDPACK on 02 July 2012 - 20:13
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It is a show rating in a puppy class, equivalent to VP... here in USA, "Very Promising" in conformation aspect.
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by 4 mals2sheps on 02 July 2012 - 20:17
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Thanks for the info much appreciated.
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