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by mb1 on 10 May 2012 - 11:08 |
| You are right that I should have insisted on the exam. I asked because I always have one done when buying a horse. I have bruises from kicking myself. My only excuse and admittedly it is as lame as my dog is that I am new to the sport and was a little overawed by my trainer. Again I see this happen in the horse world and wonder how people could be so dumb. But I thought surely Dave Kroyer (my trainer) would have my best interest in mind. So when he said don't vet, I didn't. I think this was irresponsible and naive but I have to believe that he didn't know there was a problem. On the other hand, Jessy Gabriel (the seller) most certainly knew something was wrong with the dog. |
by workingdogz on 10 May 2012 - 13:27 |
| mb1 At least you can have a little sense of humor about it. There will be very few 'dog people' that cannot commiserate with you, sooner or later someone in the 'dog game' will stick it to you, it's the nature of the beast sadly. Takes a big person to admit they share some fault in a collosal screwing, but no one should fault you for trusting your trainer. Perhaps if your female's pedigree is entered in this database, you can then go to the 'user comments' section and list her health issues and where she was purchased from etc.  |
by mb1 on 10 May 2012 - 14:05 |
| Thanks for the tip about logging her health info on this database. I have just started using this site and was not aware of that. I will have to explore that further. On the bright side (for my girl at least ), as soon as I get back from AWDF she will be having surgery to make her more comfortable. I have been trying to transition her into her new life as service /pet dog. She is really taking to it and I think if the pain can be managed she will be very happy. |
by Rik on 10 May 2012 - 14:46 |
Something like this could have been missed even with an exam, unless there were obvious outward signs. A seller lacking ethics would just pump the dog with Rimadyl and maybe a little pain med and the dog looks great. |
by mb1 on 10 May 2012 - 16:01 |
| I prefer trusting or naive but if you want to say dumb that probably fits too. There were several thing I should have picked up on. I wanted to see the dog as soon as I talked to her but was put off for a week and a half. The dog was beyond fat almost to the point of obesity . So obviously she was not working at all. Many people have seen me work her and all agree that she was a spectacular bitch. Jessy's only explanation for selling her was that they didn't click. The dog started to get sore almost immediately after purchase but she also cut a pad on her front foot. She was laid up from the pad injury so I missed the real problem for a few weeks. |
by workingdogz on 10 May 2012 - 16:20 |
| mb1, makes sense. The dog's soreness could also be easily explained away by the seller by the fact the dog was obese and out of condition had the buyer noticed any type of a 'hitch'. I'm betting since mb1 has some 'horse sense', lameness issues would be pretty quickly noticed, even just the slightest 'ouch'. Pharmaceuticals come in handy when one is trying to pull a fast one I suppose. Not saying that is what happened in this case, but----? Sorry you had to learn the hard way, perhaps you have some legal recourse in this? Might be worthwhile checking in to it. Hey, you could use the money you would have spent on a pre-purchase exam for an attorney consult  Although I am sure you have spent more than that on vet bills alone by now. Such a shame when $$ becomes more important ethics, at least you have some  |
by mb1 on 10 May 2012 - 20:22 |
| You are not the first person to mention legal recourse. I kept hoping she would just do the right thing but, I guess there is no reason to start now. She can say what she wants about me working her out of shape but I had her for almost a months before she got her first bite. Most of her conditioning was done in my canine aqua therapy pool. But say what she wants I have a CD and report from Osu. Both show severe ocd. That didn't happen at almost three years old. |
by Robert1969 on 11 May 2012 - 00:05 |
| So is Jessie Gabriel The owner of Triple Crown? |
by pdk25 on 11 May 2012 - 02:23 |
I wonder if anyone on this forum know is there is anyplace to report this transaction too. Sorta like a Better Business Bureau for dogs. I would almost be surprised if the AKC wouldn't want to know about stuff like this. |
by jvp on 11 May 2012 - 20:01 |
| Dave needs to pick his dogs and his friends better. I assume Jessy cost him a good client jvp |
by mb1 on 14 May 2012 - 02:55 |
| She does not own it, just a trainer. |
by klk0831 on 18 May 2012 - 23:30 |
| Okay, I registered specifically to comment on Michelle Bracht's posts. This is Karen Kroyer, Dave's wife, and this is the only post I will make regarding this topic. Dave and Jessy must be more mature than I am because they haven't responded to any of Michelle's allegations. Michelle you have misrepresented, or completely ommitted, several things regarding the purchase of this dog and you know what they are. Or you may have just let yourself get to the point to where you actually believe that what you are saying is the total truth. Anyone who knows Dave or Jessy knows that what you're saying isn't the complete story and please don't give people the impression that you have the dogs best interest at heart. You've left out your comments that you've made regarding how you felt about the dog after the vet told you his findings, that you flat out refused a second opinion, and the demands you were making for someone to come get the dog. At least be honest about stuff and not passive aggressive. When you took the dog back to Oklahoma and came back here for lessons, I had asked you how you liked Dora. You were grinning from ear to ear with not one single complaint. This is my only post and/or reply about this, but you all just needed to know that the story Michelle posted wasn't all that it appeared to be. Karen Kroyer |
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